Testing nemesis update (Migration to Artix)

[istinnjazz]

test on update 08-September-2017

Used with my personal customized kernel and dsdt table (4.6) and nvidia drivers, old original gui.xzm (incompatible new xorg with old nvidia here, no time to fix or recompile), and lxde.
Boot is not auto in gui, need to login to console, console is low resolution. After login and "startx" it boots.
pman-setup works, new repository is there. Pacman works but graphical programs manager does not, probably need to update manually with pacman so then I will prevent xorg to update by manually disabling, i will have to update manually to current base, not just a "pacman -Su" unfortunately.

Of course migration from previous nemesis with a highly used savefile is almost impossible without massive hacks. So a clean system is the only way to keep the system at a manageable condition.

[francois]

Updated base modules, but kept the kernel as is:

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000-kernel-4.10.8.xzm
001-core-17.xzm
002-gui-11.xzm
002-xtra-12.xzm
base.txt

1) Could bootup into xfce environment with previous packages, but as icon-theme was missing, decided to reboot and try to build anew xfce DE. But this was suspected at the update by the author N

2) Each different package installation will propose the installation of the database. It does not persist though pman-setup had been use.

Any cure for the persistence of the database?

3) In text mode tried startx and got into openbox minimal environment with access to xterm and mc as file manager. This is a good idea!

Installed a few packages:

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chromium
leafpad
thunar 
xfce4-terminal

I was unable to install xfce DE with command:

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pman -S xfce

Output:

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Database files updated. 
error: target not found: xfce

I imagine there is something wrong with the manjaro repo.
Any fix suggested?
Thanks.

[ncmprhnsbl]

I was unable to install xfce DE with command:

try xfce4
generally if you get a 'not found' message use -Ss to search, which will usually provide the correct pkg(or pkg group) name

2) Each different package installation will propose the installation of the database. It does not persist though pman-setup had been use.
Any cure for the persistence of the database?

not sure what this is about.. pman(or pacman) -Sy first?

Boot is not auto in gui,

check this: Starting a DM with openrc

[francois]

xfce4:
Got it just before coming back to this thread.
Thanks.

However, icons are missing on the desktop. Only blurred icons with an x in the center. In thunar, no icons are present. Tried to install some icon-theme and install it thru Setting > appearance > as proposed by NeoH4x0r:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=119402

In addition some decorators seems to be missing on the windows, for example the x to close the window.


pacman -Sy:
There is no persistence of the database.

[francois]

At reboot icons and decorators are there.

Pushing further there is conflict when I try to install base-devel, so unable to take advantage of AUR:

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[porteus ~]# pman -S base-devel

 No database files were found. 

I can set them up for you.

Would you like to do that now? [y/n]y
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 system                   153.4 KiB   701K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 world                    101.2 KiB   928K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 galaxy                    11.8 KiB  0.00B/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 extra                   1780.2 KiB   358K/s 00:05 [######################] 100%
 community                  4.3 MiB   710K/s 00:06 [######################] 100%

 Database files updated. 
:: There are 27 members in group base-devel:
:: Repository system
   1) autoconf  2) automake  3) binutils  4) bison  5) fakeroot  6) file
   7) findutils  8) flex  9) gawk  10) gcc  11) gettext  12) grep  13) groff
   14) gzip  15) libelogind  16) libeudev  17) libtool  18) m4  19) make
   20) pacman  21) patch  22) pkg-config  23) sed  24) sudo  25) texinfo
   26) util-linux  27) which

Enter a selection (default=all): 
warning: file-5.31-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: findutils-4.6.0-2 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: gawk-4.1.4-2 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: gettext-0.19.8.1-2 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: grep-3.1-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: gzip-1.8-2 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: libelogind-234.2-2 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: libeudev-3.2.2-4 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: libtool-2.4.6-8 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: pacman-5.0.2-7 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: patch-2.7.5-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: sed-4.4-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: sudo-1.8.20.p2-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: texinfo-6.4-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: util-linux-2.30.1-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
warning: which-2.21-2 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
:: artix-mirrorlist and pacman-mirrors are in conflict (pacman-mirrorlist). Remove pacman-mirrors? [y/N] 

Thanks.

[ncmprhnsbl]

about icons: you need to run update-cache which will create a module with the updated caches.. (although it looks like that has resolved itself for you ??)

it's probably safe to remove pacman-mirrors(manjaro pkg), but my previous attempts at a devel module and AUR functionality have failed, so, good luck with that..
a headsup:
looking at the artix forum https://artixlinux.org/forum/ it looks like support for a manjaro hybrid setup(extra, community) is not going to be supported, so the next update will an artix/arch pkg base..

[ncmprhnsbl]

Maybe we should insist for manjaro support.

you could try that... but i dont see it happening.. because artix plans to keep up with arch and manjaro lags behind( and some other issues they have with manjaro packaging decisions)
what i was thinking was to keep manjaro repos, but as a lesser priority than arch(ie list them after arch repos in pacman.conf)
that way some things that manjaro packages(that arch doesn't) (eg. palemoon) would still be available..

[francois]

This suits me well!
Thanks.

[ncmprhnsbl]

This suits me well!
Thanks.

Bad news: don't seem to be able to do this: can't have two repos with the same name ie. extra(arch) and extra(manjaro) active at the same time..
with this latest update [How to] manually upgrade 3.5 base modules (Post by ncmprhnsbl #58599)
i've decided to bite the bullet and go with Artix/Arch because Artix intends to keep in step with Arch..
i'll try to put some more effort into getting a working devel.xzm for AUR usage..

[francois]

In the most recent version of nemesis, it seems that we have a broken pman:

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[porteus guest]# pman -S thunar
/usr/local/bin/pman: line 116: syntax error near unexpected token `/var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db'
/usr/local/bin/pman: line 116: `/var/lib/pacman/sync/community.db \'
[porteus guest]

Thanks.

[fulalas]

However, icons are missing on the desktop. Only blurred icons with an x in the center. In thunar, no icons are present.

I'm facing the same problem when building Xfce from scratch. I have no idea how to fix it. Calling update-cache doesn't fix it. The problem is so weird that even booting in AF mode, sometimes I can see the icons, and sometimes I can't.

[ncmprhnsbl]

In the most recent version of nemesis, it seems that we have a broken pman:

yep, looks like i was a bit sloppy there
if you edit line 115 and add a backslash (\) :

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/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist-arch \ 

in /usr/local/bin/pman should fix that part at least ..

[beny]

fulalas you can't download the xfce4 packages and xfce-goodies from arch in local and convert to xzm? arch or nemesis have the last xfce4 available on the net so,i have upgraded also gnome to the last version but i like xfce4

[francois]

@fulalas:
In my case at next reboot all was in order.
Did you tried to install another icon theme and to modify icon theme with panel - settings - appearance icons - "new icon theme"
https://www.xfce-look.org/browse/cat/132/ord/latest/

@nm... :
It works now. I should have looked at the file. Though I would not knew what to look at.
Thanks.

[francois]

@nm...:
Output error that might be of interest:
/usr/local/bin/activate: line 207: /usr/bin/update-gtk-immodules: No such file or directory

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[porteus kde5-tmp]# activate thunar*
 thunar-1.6.12-1.xzm activated. 
EXIT="OK"
Updating X font indexes:  /usr/bin/fc-cache -f
Updating glib schemas: /usr/bin/glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas
Updating GTK immodules: /usr/bin/update-gtk-immodules
/usr/local/bin/activate: line 207: /usr/bin/update-gtk-immodules: No such file or directory

Thanks.