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- babam
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Sorry, my English is bad.
- Ed_P
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I write files to NTFS partitions all the time with Porteus. And I have with versions 3 - 5.
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@Ed_P But NTFS-3G ( FUSE based ) is very slow ( write speed ).
I have to wait a long time when copying large files ( .iso, .mp4 )
I have to wait a long time when copying large files ( .iso, .mp4 )
Sorry, my English is bad.
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My experiences with ntfs-3g are that writing files is more than speedy enough, it is creating the files that is slow. So copying from ntfs-3g via usb 3.0 to ntfs-3g my 131G backup directory with relatively large and hence relatively few files takes 14 mins, but doing the same for a 125G documents directory with many smaller files grinds to a halt.


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Part of your problem babam is using NTFS on a USB drive. NTFS is for hard drives. For flash drives use FAT, or exFAT if larger than 32 GB. NTFS is a journaling file system which creates extra IO when writing files. USB ports also aren't as fast as hard drives which doesn't help.
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Maybe this is the cause of failure when building Paragon
Maybe this is the cause of failure when building Paragon
Code: Select all
conftest.c:9:28: fatal error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory
conftest.c:9:28: fatal error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory
conftest.c:55:29: fatal error: 1/radix-tree.h: No such file or directory
Sorry, my English is bad.
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1. "Porteus Kernel Builder" was updated.
2. Most recent versions of build examples were updated.
Please refer to the top article of this thread.
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@babam
I am studying about Paragon.
Thanks.
2. Most recent versions of build examples were updated.
Please refer to the top article of this thread.
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@babam
I am studying about Paragon.
Thanks.
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This is simply not true.Ed_P wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 13:33Part of your problem babam is using NTFS on a USB drive. NTFS is for hard drives. For flash drives use FAT, or exFAT if larger than 32 GB. NTFS is a journaling file system which creates extra IO when writing files. USB ports also aren't as fast as hard drives which doesn't help.
NTFS can be used on portable units like USB sticks without any problem. And, contrary to what happens with FAT units, NTFS has full support to symlinks

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Oh, it's very true. 

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Yes, symlinks are supported in NTFS, but not in FAT filesystem.
FAT supports EFI, but you can't boot EFI witih NTFS.
And this is where the journey begins with laptops and secure boot and BIOS updates...
Cheers!
P.S.: I asked in another thread if anyone knows how to create a USB stick with a FAT boot partition and another (NTFS) partition for data / modules (with symbolic links, etc.)
FAT supports EFI, but you can't boot EFI witih NTFS.
And this is where the journey begins with laptops and secure boot and BIOS updates...
Cheers!
P.S.: I asked in another thread if anyone knows how to create a USB stick with a FAT boot partition and another (NTFS) partition for data / modules (with symbolic links, etc.)
> Does not compute_ 
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=94310#p94310
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102066#p102066
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102306#p102306
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=72741#p72741

https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=94310#p94310
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102066#p102066
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102306#p102306
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=72741#p72741
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@neko san,
The last kernel version working well for me in Nemesis/Aporteus is 5.1.15.
Thenceforth, I'm experiencing sloooow boot times. (I think you too).
Thank you.
Cheers!
The last kernel version working well for me in Nemesis/Aporteus is 5.1.15.
Thenceforth, I'm experiencing sloooow boot times. (I think you too).

Thank you.
Cheers!
> Does not compute_ 
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=94310#p94310
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102066#p102066
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102306#p102306
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=72741#p72741

https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=94310#p94310
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102066#p102066
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102306#p102306
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=72741#p72741
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I would think GParted could do that but why not make the 2nd partition ext4 or some other Linux flavor which supports symlinks? NTFS doesn't buy you anything since Windows only accesses the 1st partition on removable drives.
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Yes, I guess you're right.
The question is, NTFS is readable for many devices out there. Think of using the USB stick to a wide range of multimedia files, videos, music, epubs...
I'm on my way to find the perfect mobility solution on my pocket
Also, would I be able to load my custom modules from there?
Thanks

The question is, NTFS is readable for many devices out there. Think of using the USB stick to a wide range of multimedia files, videos, music, epubs...
I'm on my way to find the perfect mobility solution on my pocket

Also, would I be able to load my custom modules from there?
Thanks

> Does not compute_ 
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=94310#p94310
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102066#p102066
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102306#p102306
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=72741#p72741

https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=94310#p94310
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102066#p102066
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=102306#p102306
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?p=72741#p72741
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Not true for older Windoze versions, e.g. NTFS created by Windoze-XP is unable to use symlinks, at least from Windoze 7 onwards it is true what you wrote.
Cheers!
Yours Rava
Yours Rava