Nemesis Mate

[Jack]

@jack:
We will troubleshoot you. This sometimes is fast, sometimes slow.

Don't try more than 5 times, stop after half an hour and take some fresh air. Watch for the icy patches outdoor.

I know that, but I just don't what to do. I was real happy when I seen it work and a big let down when it didn't. I know it will work someday.

Beside you should know me by now from my past.

You don't know how much I wanted to make this work by myself but I can't it is harder then it looks for me but it could easy fro someone else. That's why you think I'm mad but I'm not mad at the member I'm mad at myself for not doing it.

[francois]

@all:
Working with twin (the window system available from the console manager) within xfce desktop, just to learn how to work with twin, I got into mate.

It seems that not much is missing for mate to work. However, I am not able to copy/paste the output messages yet.

In wich way could I get the message into a file. It seems that:

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mate-session > /tmp/mate.txt

does not work.

Maybe the solution is here:
1) adding lxdm: not enough
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=153898
2) error message: mate failed to run gnome keyring daemon:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GN ... stallation
pman -S gnome-keyring #better but not enough
3) Gdk-CRITICAL: gdk_display_get_name: assertion 'GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed

[Jack]

I know this is not the problem. I don't think. This is in porteus/modules

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pman -S xorg-xinit

I know this is not the problem. I don't think. This is in porteus/base

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update-cache

I have to retype this line to make it after login in Terminal. I need fine out how to fix this.

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echo "exec mate-session" > ~/.xinitrc

And then I did this.

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startx

Then it works again, like before. I'm glad it works.

Now I can work on mate-extra to add more.

Your talk to me francois helps a lot. Thank you.

[francois]

to fix this:

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su
toor
nano ~/.xinitrc

Make sure

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exec mate-session

is at the end of the file.
If not with the cursor get there an write it down.
Then ctrl-x and follow the instructions to save the file.

[Jack]

After I did the edit with nano and I save it. Then I rebooted login in Terminal type startx then it went into 3 xterm Graphic windows.

I found out after I edit xinitrc and added exec mate-session then save it and then open xinitrc to verify that exec mate-session is there and it is there. Then I reboot and after login I check it again with nano and I see exec mate-session and it not there anymore. Something is changing xinitrc back because exec mate-session was not there and I don't know what is changing it.

@francois
I did not type this.

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exec mat-session

I type this.

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exec mate-session

[francois]

Just make a module of that file from within mate.

Prepare the file to be compressed into a permanent module.

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root@porteus:~# mkdir /home/guest/building
root@porteus:~# cd /home/guest/building   
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# mkdir mate-xinit
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# cd mate-xinit
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit# mkdir home
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit# cd home
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home# mkdir guest
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home# cd guest

Insert command exec mate-session in .xinitrc

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root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# echo "exec mate-session" > .xinitrc
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# ls

Verify with mc the content of .xinitrc

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root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# mc

edit file with command at base of screen

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exit

Build module.

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root@porteus:~# cd /home/guest/building   
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# ls
mate-xinit/
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# dir2xzm mate-xinit mate-xinit.xzm

Place module mate-xinit.xzm in /porteus/modules

Reboot!

[francois]

updated precedent post to provide detailed procedure

[Blaze]

you probly need to run: (as root)

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update-cache

before starting X, this will update varoius caches and ask if you want a module: answer yes(y)
i think it turns up in /tmp, if so move it to /modules

do this step (probably, you can ignore this step by ncmprhnsbl) +
replace 003-mate.xzm on my 003-mate.xzm (ONLY these steps)

[Jack]

I redid my 003-mate.xzm and here is the order I did it.

Step 1 I did this. To get it ready to build the modules.

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setup-pman

Step 2 then this. But I had to move 003-mate.xzm from modules directory to the base directory

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pman -S mate

Step 3 and this. But I had to move 003-mate-xtra.xzm from modules directory to the base directory

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pman -S mate-extra

Step 4 and this. I am going to check if I need it or not.

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update-cache

Step 5 and this. I need this or it won't in to Mate.

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echo "exec mate-session" > ~/.xinitrc

Step 6 and last.

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startx

It booted in to Mate and it seem to work OK. I need fine out to setup the wireless. I don't seem to fine it

Just make a module of that file from within mate.

Prepare the file to be compressed into a permanent module.

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root@porteus:~# mkdir /home/guest/building
root@porteus:~# cd /home/guest/building   
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# mkdir mate-xinit
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# cd mate-xinit
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit# mkdir home
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit# cd home
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home# mkdir guest
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home# cd guest

Insert command exec mate-session in .xinitrc

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root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# echo "exec mate-session" > .xinitrc
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# ls

Verify with mc the content of .xinitrc

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root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# mc

edit file with command at base of screen

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exit

Build module.

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root@porteus:~# cd /home/guest/building   
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# ls
mate-xinit/
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# dir2xzm mate-xinit mate-xinit.xzm

Place module mate-xinit.xzm in /porteus/modules

Reboot!

I will do this later to day.

you probly need to run: (as root)

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update-cache

before starting X, this will update varoius caches and ask if you want a module: answer yes(y)
i think it turns up in /tmp, if so move it to /modules

do this step (probably, you can ignore this step by ncmprhnsbl) +
replace 003-mate.xzm on my 003-mate.xzm (ONLY these steps)

I will try your 003-mate.xzm later to day to.

[Jack]

you probly need to run: (as root)

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update-cache

before starting X, this will update varoius caches and ask if you want a module: answer yes(y)
i think it turns up in /tmp, if so move it to /modules

do this step (probably, you can ignore this step by ncmprhnsbl) +
replace 003-mate.xzm on my 003-mate.xzm (ONLY these steps)

Your did the same as mind. And they were both the same size. I take it they were built the same way.

Just make a module of that file from within mate.

Prepare the file to be compressed into a permanent module.

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root@porteus:~# mkdir /home/guest/building
root@porteus:~# cd /home/guest/building   
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# mkdir mate-xinit
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# cd mate-xinit
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit# mkdir home
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit# cd home
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home# mkdir guest
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home# cd guest

Insert command exec mate-session in .xinitrc

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root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# echo "exec mate-session" > .xinitrc
root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# ls

Verify with mc the content of .xinitrc

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root@porteus:/home/guest/building/mate-xinit/home/guest# mc

edit file with command at base of screen

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exit

Build module.

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root@porteus:~# cd /home/guest/building   
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# ls
mate-xinit/
root@porteus:/home/guest/building# dir2xzm mate-xinit mate-xinit.xzm

Place module mate-xinit.xzm in /porteus/modules

Reboot!

I did what you show me here but it still boot into what look like a Terminal in Root but it would boot into guest at all.

After I get the modules built I still have to type these two steps to boot into Mate that is in Always Fresh mode.
Step 5 and this. I need this or it won't in to Mate.

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echo "exec mate-session" > ~/.xinitrc

Step 6 and last.

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startx

It booted in to Mate and it seem to work OK. I need fine out to setup the wireless. I don't seem to fine it

[Jack]

Here is some screen shot I took with Mate I built. It only boot up in root and not guest.

This one is in guest and there is no .xinitrc.

This one is in root and there is an .xinitrc.

This one is in root and I open .xinitrc and there is exec mate-session.

Why won't it boot up and auto start?

[Blaze]

you probly need to run: (as root)

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update-cache

before starting X, this will update varoius caches and ask if you want a module: answer yes(y)
i think it turns up in /tmp, if so move it to /modules

do this step (probably, you can ignore this step by ncmprhnsbl) +
replace 003-mate.xzm on my 003-mate.xzm (ONLY these steps)

Your did the same as mind. And they were both the same size. I take it they were built the same way.

Not the same - look at the /etc/X11/xinit/ directory.

[ncmprhnsbl]

good news...
i took Blazes' mate module , added some things, in particular, lxdm-consolekit, and got autologin to guest working that way...
also added mate-terminal and leafpad for functionality, plus deps vte3 and pcre2, and gtk-engine-murrine to fix the theme..
stripped out : locales, help, gir, some backgrounds, (maybe more i forget) got the size to 91 mb..
could get slimmer by stripping out the icons somehow, need to look into that...
hang tight and i'll upload it soon..
btw , did need to update and merge the caches for mate-terminal to work(gschemas) and something else?(i forget)..
about WIFI from terminal or console do: nmtui .. its a ncurses gui for networkmanager

[Jack]

What I can't understand but what happen to (Documents, Pictures. Video and the other) directory's in guest and root. I use them all the time some how they got delete in 001-core, 002-gui or 002-xtra ever which one they were in.

@Blaze

I will look at your 003-mate.xzm a little closer.

[ncmprhnsbl]

here, try this one 003-mate-3.xzm 87.5 mb

What I can't understand but what happen to (Documents, Pictures. Video and the other) directory's

yeah they should get created by some xdg process, i think...... Blaze knows more about this...
personally, if i want a directory i just create it....