GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
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GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
I'm trying to get minimal for when only running one program, and am wondering: Is it possible to run a program (e.g. Firefox or LibreOffice) without loading any of the Porteus desktops (kde/mate/xfce/lxqt)?
I tried some stuff like "xinit -- /usr/bin/firefox", but so far just trial-and-error(s).
I tried some stuff like "xinit -- /usr/bin/firefox", but so far just trial-and-error(s).
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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
AFAIK i dont think so, that is, you need some sort of window manager, to run gtk apps..
check out http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=4053 for a *relatively* lightweight fluxbox setup..
future porteus releases will include a minimal openbox wm for what you're doing,
in the meantime, have a look at the "Nemesis" development branch
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5066
which has this function...
apart from that, look into twm or xorg-twm
check out http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=4053 for a *relatively* lightweight fluxbox setup..
future porteus releases will include a minimal openbox wm for what you're doing,
in the meantime, have a look at the "Nemesis" development branch
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5066
which has this function...
apart from that, look into twm or xorg-twm
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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
I have read somewhere in the documentation of arch Linux that you could open a web browser in xorg only.
However, I have been unable to find the arch wiki about it. I will report it I find the information. If should be tied to autologin in xorg or in graphical mode.
However, I have been unable to find the arch wiki about it. I will report it I find the information. If should be tied to autologin in xorg or in graphical mode.
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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Its not xorg me thinks as some distros now have wayland graphics.
It may relate to the dependencies like gtk or whatever and they may need to find a xorg lib file etc
It may relate to the dependencies like gtk or whatever and they may need to find a xorg lib file etc
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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Here is exactly what I meantabout only xorg and firefox:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xi ... ow_manager
Also, I found these other threads about the topic, but the one I meant was the above-mentioned:
http://superuser.com/questions/407043/i ... installing
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7844 ... -a-display
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xi ... ow_manager
Also, I found these other threads about the topic, but the one I meant was the above-mentioned:
http://superuser.com/questions/407043/i ... installing
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7844 ... -a-display
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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
^ Thanks, francois. Nice, informative link. 

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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
@bogomips:
As I never implemented the strategy under porteus or arch, I will be glad to hear that you have achieve it.
As I never implemented the strategy under porteus or arch, I will be glad to hear that you have achieve it.
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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Salutations...
Perhaps you are looking for this?
Twin (windowing system
https://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
Caveat?
Your mileage my vary... besides (being unattractive?) even if you avoid a GUI window manager
(and/or environment?), you still will have trouble avoiding the major application toolkits (Qt/Gtk) or Mesa.
Perhaps what you is NEED is this?
PekWM
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
And this...
http://fifth-browser.sourceforge.net/
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=5419
Or this...
NetSurf
Open/Flux(box) although lightweight they still rely on Gtk/Mesa. PekWM only uses XCB and does not rely on Mesa.
Also Palemoon (Firefox?) although lightweight still relies on Gtk. Fifth uses FLTK . NetSurf uses XCB and/or xlib.
Sorry... I forgot to also make this shameless plug...Xfe
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
If you go this route you will NOT completely avoid toolkits but you will end up with an attractive... faster... smaller memory/resource footprint.
When I switched to Porteus from Android I was big on status quo. Now I have seen the "light" (pun intended) with a little help from my friends @ Porteus.
The revolution will NOT be televised...
I'm going rogue.
Best Regards...

Perhaps you are looking for this?

Twin (windowing system
https://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
Caveat?

Your mileage my vary... besides (being unattractive?) even if you avoid a GUI window manager
(and/or environment?), you still will have trouble avoiding the major application toolkits (Qt/Gtk) or Mesa.
Perhaps what you is NEED is this?

PekWM
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
And this...

http://fifth-browser.sourceforge.net/
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=5419
Or this...

NetSurf
Open/Flux(box) although lightweight they still rely on Gtk/Mesa. PekWM only uses XCB and does not rely on Mesa.
Also Palemoon (Firefox?) although lightweight still relies on Gtk. Fifth uses FLTK . NetSurf uses XCB and/or xlib.
Sorry... I forgot to also make this shameless plug...Xfe
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
If you go this route you will NOT completely avoid toolkits but you will end up with an attractive... faster... smaller memory/resource footprint.
When I switched to Porteus from Android I was big on status quo. Now I have seen the "light" (pun intended) with a little help from my friends @ Porteus.
The revolution will NOT be televised...

Best Regards...

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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
thankyou francois, my knowledge(such as it is) has been expanded... 

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Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Perhaps what you need is porteus kiosk.
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