limits on save.dat file
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- White ninja
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limits on save.dat file
Hi-
Is there any limit on save.dat file size? For i.e. if I use an external drive or big flash drive, can I make the save.dat much larger. Puppy linux used to have a limit, but I can' remember the exact size for their pup save files. I should be storing packages I want to persist in save.dat with package manager .... isn't that right?
thx! mtdew3q
Is there any limit on save.dat file size? For i.e. if I use an external drive or big flash drive, can I make the save.dat much larger. Puppy linux used to have a limit, but I can' remember the exact size for their pup save files. I should be storing packages I want to persist in save.dat with package manager .... isn't that right?
thx! mtdew3q
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- White ninja
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Re: limits on save.dat file
oops I forgot to add: I am asking this under the scenario where I use ntfs
- brokenman
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Re: limits on save.dat file
I should be storing packages I want to persist in save.dat with package manager .... isn't that right?
No. You should be working from a native linux file system and not needing a save.dat file. If you are forced to use FAT32/NTFS then to have your packages persist simply place them in the 'modules' folder. They will be loaded at every boot. Have you read our documentation?
No. You should be working from a native linux file system and not needing a save.dat file. If you are forced to use FAT32/NTFS then to have your packages persist simply place them in the 'modules' folder. They will be loaded at every boot. Have you read our documentation?
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- White ninja
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Re: limits on save.dat file
I have read some documentation. Just not all of it. I am sure I am half off reading something that is isn't essential, not knowing which order to follow. I will read some more definitely.
I didn't come across the part about the modules and anything about being forced to use ntfs. I will certainly look for that. It sounds like I will stay away from ntfs based on your inflection, until I at least read more.
thanks
I didn't come across the part about the modules and anything about being forced to use ntfs. I will certainly look for that. It sounds like I will stay away from ntfs based on your inflection, until I at least read more.
thanks
- brokenman
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Re: limits on save.dat file
If you have Porteus installed (or any linux) it is always better to install it on a native linux file system. The only time you need a save.dat file is if you have installed Porteus on a FAT32/NTFS partition. Personally I can't think of any reason why one would have to use a non native file system. In any case this is a good read:
http://www.porteus.org/tutorials/26-gen ... cture.html
http://www.porteus.org/tutorials/26-gen ... cture.html
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- White ninja
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Re: limits on save.dat file
okay. very cool. I will read tonight.
thx!
thx!
- Obosan
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Re: limits on save.dat file
Hi @brokenman
When I use Porteus save file manager, I got "Permission denied." "Please try again"
messagge as I input password "toor" as usual. It worked until yesterday.
Do you think I need to reconstruct my USB Flash drive?
I copied Porteus folders on fat32 formatted usb drive and created ext4 Porteus save file.
The save file size was 1024MB.
When I convert FreeMind.txz to *.xzm, on terminal, it shows no space left/ no left on device.
Any solution would be pretty much appreciate.

When I use Porteus save file manager, I got "Permission denied." "Please try again"
messagge as I input password "toor" as usual. It worked until yesterday.
Do you think I need to reconstruct my USB Flash drive?
I copied Porteus folders on fat32 formatted usb drive and created ext4 Porteus save file.
The save file size was 1024MB.
When I convert FreeMind.txz to *.xzm, on terminal, it shows no space left/ no left on device.
Any solution would be pretty much appreciate.
- Ed_P
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Re: limits on save.dat file
This is indeed a good read. A little confusing but definitely interesting.brokenman wrote:In any case this is a good read:
http://www.porteus.org/tutorials/26-gen ... cture.html
- Obosan
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Re: limits on save.dat file
As I reboot, Opera and Chrome doesn't work. This is the reason why I write this on firefox.
Still I above mentioned the password "toor" doesn't work so far. I would like to continue to use porteus
for my personal very old computer because it used be worked so fine with a lot of efforts and helps of
you, guys, at forum.
I can not imagine that I have been able to learn a lot about Porteus/Linux as well as slackware without you.
As a matter of fact, I haven't even known Slackware before Porteus in March this year.
ARIGATO, WASURENAI / OMOTENASHI! from JAPAN.
Still I above mentioned the password "toor" doesn't work so far. I would like to continue to use porteus
for my personal very old computer because it used be worked so fine with a lot of efforts and helps of
you, guys, at forum.
I can not imagine that I have been able to learn a lot about Porteus/Linux as well as slackware without you.
As a matter of fact, I haven't even known Slackware before Porteus in March this year.

ARIGATO, WASURENAI / OMOTENASHI! from JAPAN.

- Ed_P
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Re: limits on save.dat file
To find out how full your save.dat file is see this posting:
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php? ... =15#p13272
Do note it must be run in an Always Fresh mode.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php? ... =15#p13272
Do note it must be run in an Always Fresh mode.
- Obosan
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Re: limits on save.dat file
Dear Ed_P,
We have 13hrs or 14hrs time difference, right? Good Evening!
What I would like to know is why password "toor" doesn't work suddenly?
Do you have any solution? If there isn't, I will reformat my USB flash
drive and this time I'll format it under linux system format such as ext4.
Waiting for your reply!
We have 13hrs or 14hrs time difference, right? Good Evening!

What I would like to know is why password "toor" doesn't work suddenly?
Do you have any solution? If there isn't, I will reformat my USB flash
drive and this time I'll format it under linux system format such as ext4.
Waiting for your reply!

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Re: limits on save.dat file
To create large save.dat file it is better to start download large file from Internet and immediately pause downloading - many download managers reserves space for downloading files. Then you should format your file with mkfs command. The advantage is that you don't write all file to disk but only reserve space - quicker and less writes to disk. I don't see point to create large save.dat(.xzm) file ca 2-20MB is enough to save config files and create symlinks to folders on ntfs or fat. See http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=3424 if you are able to understand how it is made.
- Obosan
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Re: limits on save.dat file
@tome
I bookmarked your link indicated. I will read word by word for sure.
If there is unclear matter, I will let you know. Thanks.
I bookmarked your link indicated. I will read word by word for sure.
If there is unclear matter, I will let you know. Thanks.
- Obosan
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Re: limits on save.dat file
@Ed_P
Always Fresh mode is the key, right? I would like to fix this free space: 0bytes problem.
I will read it and try to solve this matter. Thank you very much!
Always Fresh mode is the key, right? I would like to fix this free space: 0bytes problem.
I will read it and try to solve this matter. Thank you very much!
- Ed_P
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Re: limits on save.dat file
If the save.dat file proves to be full it can be expanded via the Porteus Settings Centre options. Just be sure the file isn't in use via the changes or extramod cheatcodes when you expand it, else it will end up empty.Obosan wrote:@Ed_P
Always Fresh mode is the key, right? I would like to fix this free space: 0bytes problem.
I will read it and try to solve this matter. Thank you very much!