okay......heres what happened...i mixed 2.1 rc2 with ati from final..
so forget what i said about 2.1, it works no problem......apologies for wasting your time.

a guess at what might be happening with 3.0 and 13.4
is that, at that stage of development they had the 6000 series working with xserver>1.14, but not 5000..or something like that..
where, if amd website is correct(it claims xserver1.15 support), 14.1beta should work with 5000 series..
i might just have to wait a bit for a newer stable release... and hope 5000 series doesnt become legacy anytime soon...