Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manager)

[alex]

Hi, what steps do you recommend to manually localize Sensei in other language, as in Language Selection Tool. I need to localize keyboard, the system and modules created with makexzm

I've made a really good work with pacman and porteus!!

alex

[stifiling]

i have the locale files....give me just a moment. r u using the 32 or 64-bit?

[alex]

Hi stifiling, thanks for your quick response!. I'm using the 32 bit version

alex

[stifiling]

alright i uploaded the locale files for the 32-bit. the link to the xzm module is in the first post. this arch wiki should be helpful in explaining how to use them.

let us know how it works out...

[simargl]

Does GNOME 3 desktop module work without systemd? Once I tried to make it, but failed - it showed that aw snap! screen...

[stifiling]

Hey there sim...still here chuggin away on sensei.

i was having a strange problem w/gnome 3 too. i wasn't getting the "aww snap" page, the desktop was just a pure black screen. no mouse cursor or anything. it ended up being smthn odd w/dbus. i found that after 'reinstalling' dbus...after the system loaded, fixed it. so what i did was remove dbus from the core...and in the core module before squashing i put the dbus installation file at the location /var/cache/pacman/dbus-1.8.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz. i also have this command in the /etc/rc.local file:

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pacman -Udd --noconfirm --force /var/cache/pacman/*.pkg.tar.xz &> /dev/null

so that it will install dbus, after the system boots. doing it this way makes it work. two other packages i have doin this are gsettings-desktop-schemas and gdk-pixbuf2. i had to do that with viewnior also in the last sensei 2.1. not sure what that's about but with some packages...installing them after the system is booted....makes stuff work.

you're still using linux live as the base for alphaos i see. not much interest in porteus? porteus is really really nice. the cheatcodes are really nice. i'm not sure if u've ever given porteus a real good look...but it's really nice.

[simargl]

They are for me very similar, almost same, only Porteus has more people working on it so has more options like additional cheatcodes and different desktops availabale. Both are very good, but linux live scripts from its original author Thomas M. are very well made and clean, so much better than messy puppy linux, and I had no need to look further. linux-live 7 is perfect. Porteus could differentiate if they switched base to something else -like arch.

[freestyler]

They are for me very similar, almost same, only Porteus has more people working on it so has more options like additional cheatcodes and different desktops availabale.

Isn't that different? I think Porteus is very unique, I haven't seen anything like it and am yet to see a distro as flexible.

[brokenman]

Does GNOME 3 desktop module work without systemd?

Yes check out the 'FAT gnome' thread. I have had gnome3 running successfully on Porteus since Gnome 3.8. I will be discontinuing this desktop project because each new gnome release introduces too many headaches. There are not enough users of this version desktop (within Porteus) to justify the headaches.

only Porteus has more people working on it

I am interested as to how many people you believe work on Porteus?

Both are very good, but linux live scripts from its original author Thomas M. are very well made and clean

Indeed they are, however we don't use them. Fanthom has rewritten most of the boot scripts. We use the concept of slax (we are descendants) but the live scripts are now used to create Porteus.

Porteus could differentiate if they switched base to something else -like arch.

We also had an interesting thread about this. We now have USM which makes many packages available to the community. freestyler is also putting together a nice repository which should increase the number of available packages substantially.

[francois]

Porteus could differentiate if they switched base to something else -like arch.

I find that stifiling porteus arch version works rather very well with porteus as a basis. Personnally, I find it better than crunchbang or manjaro. This is an opinion. It seems to me an easier experience. But maybe I have a bias as I am more familiar with porteus.

There is also a very interesting debian version of porteus. Comparing the debian-porteus to arch-porteus makes you believe that arch as much as debian could be comparable valuable approaches to slackware for porteus.

It depends on how much you want to spend time on working with your box to do usefull work (less sweat); or spend time to do usefull work on your box with spending as much time with working on your box to do the usefull work (more sweat).

Sometimes I am attracted more to the arch and slackware way, but at other times, especially when I am in a rush, I pest and wonder why. I would say that porteus-slackware is the middle way.

[francois]

@stifiling:
Struggling in porteus stock to build digikam, I decided to build digikam the photograph manipulating program on porteus-arch. There are error messages present before the buildup of digikam. What do they mean? Will they prevent porteus-arch to work properly? In addition, some optional packages or libraries for digikam are proposed but not built up. Usually, what is the effect of not installing these?

Here is my output:

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root@sensei:~/usm# pacman -S digikam
resolving dependencies...
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/cups-1.7.1-4/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/findutils-4.4.2-5/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/gawk-4.1.0-2/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/gettext-0.18.3.2-1/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/grep-2.18-1/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/gzip-1.6-1/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/libcups-1.7.1-4/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/libutil-linux-2.24.1-3/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/pacman-4.1.2-5/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/sed-4.2.2-3/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/texinfo-5.2-2/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/util-linux-2.24.1-3/desc: No such file or directory
error: could not open file /var/lib/pacman/local/which-2.20-6/desc: No such file or directory
looking for inter-conflicts...

Packages (29): akonadi-1.11.0-1  gd-2.1.0-2  glu-9.0.0-2  gtkglext-1.2.0-9
               intel-tbb-4.2_20131118-1  kdeedu-marble-4.12.3-1
               kdepimlibs-4.12.3-1  lensfun-0.2.8-1  libaio-0.3.109-7
               libdc1394-2.2.1-2  libdmtx-0.7.4-5  libgphoto2-2.5.3.1-2
               libkdcraw-4.12.3-1  libkexiv2-4.12.3-1  libkface-3.5.0-3
               libkgeomap-3.5.0-3  libkipi-4.12.3-1  liblqr-0.4.2-1
               libmariadbclient-5.5.36-1  libraw-0.16.0-1  libraw1394-2.1.0-2
               mariadb-5.5.36-1  mariadb-clients-5.5.36-1  opencv-2.4.8-1
               pangox-compat-0.0.2-1  prison-1.1.0-1  qrencode-3.4.3-1
               xine-lib-1.2.4-3  digikam-3.5.0-3

Total Download Size:    85.70 MiB
Total Installed Size:   360.97 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages ...
 libaio-0.3.109-7-i686      4.5 KiB  4.36M/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libmariadbclient-5....     6.4 MiB  2.17M/s 00:03 [######################] 100%
 mariadb-clients-5.5...   871.3 KiB  1800K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 mariadb-5.5.36-1-i686      9.4 MiB  1804K/s 00:05 [######################] 100%
 akonadi-1.11.0-1-i686    693.3 KiB  1315K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
 libdmtx-0.7.4-5-i686      45.1 KiB  7.34M/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 qrencode-3.4.3-1-i686     33.9 KiB  5.51M/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 prison-1.1.0-1-i686       25.0 KiB  3.49M/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 kdepimlibs-4.12.3-1...     4.0 MiB  1164K/s 00:03 [######################] 100%
 gd-2.1.0-2-i686          135.2 KiB   438K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 libgphoto2-2.5.3.1-2-i686    1149.1 KiB  1016K/s 00:01 [##############################] 100%
 intel-tbb-4.2_20131118-...   355.8 KiB  1088K/s 00:00 [############################] 100%
 xine-lib-1.2.4-3-i686      2.7 MiB   950K/s 00:03 [#########################] 100%
 libraw1394-2.1.0-2-i686   46.2 KiB  6.44M/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 libdc1394-2.2.1-2-i686    99.1 KiB   991K/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 glu-9.0.0-2-i686         182.3 KiB  1435K/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 pangox-compat-0.0.2...    39.3 KiB  12.8M/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 gtkglext-1.2.0-9-i686    172.6 KiB   846K/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 opencv-2.4.8-1-i686        6.0 MiB   931K/s 00:07 [#########################] 100%
 liblqr-0.4.2-1-i686       28.6 KiB  6.98M/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 libkipi-4.12.3-1-i686     90.6 KiB  3.85M/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 libkexiv2-4.12.3-1-i686  243.2 KiB  1062K/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 libraw-0.16.0-1-i686     448.3 KiB   866K/s 00:01 [#########################] 100%
 libkdcraw-4.12.3-1-i686   97.2 KiB   926K/s 00:00 [#########################] 100%
 libkface-3.5.0-3-i686      6.7 MiB  1128K/s 00:06 [#########################] 100%
 kdeedu-marble-4.12....    15.3 MiB  1414K/s 00:11 [#########################] 100%
 libkgeomap-3.5.0-3-i686  134.8 KiB   127K/s 00:01 [#########################] 100%
 lensfun-0.2.8-1-i686     265.1 KiB   487K/s 00:01 [#########################] 100%
 digikam-3.5.0-3-i686      30.2 MiB  1537K/s 00:20 [#########################] 100%
(29/29) checking keys in keyring                   [#########################] 100%
(29/29) checking package integrity                 [#########################] 100%
(29/29) loading package files                      [#########################] 100%
(29/29) checking for file conflicts                [#########################] 100%
(29/29) checking available disk space              [#########################] 100%
( 1/29) installing libaio                          [#########################] 100%
( 2/29) installing libmariadbclient                [#########################] 100%
( 3/29) installing mariadb-clients                 [#########################] 100%
( 4/29) installing mariadb                         [#########################] 100%
WARNING: The host 'sensei' could not be looked up with resolveip.
This probably means that your libc libraries are not 100 % compatible
with this binary MariaDB version. The MariaDB daemon, mysqld, should work
normally with the exception that host name resolving will not work.
This means that you should use IP addresses instead of hostnames
when specifying MariaDB privileges !
Installing MariaDB/MySQL system tables in '/var/lib/mysql' ...
OK
Filling help tables...
OK

To start mysqld at boot time you have to copy
support-files/mysql.server to the right place for your system

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MariaDB root USER !
To do so, start the server, then issue the following commands:

'/usr/bin/mysqladmin' -u root password 'new-password'
'/usr/bin/mysqladmin' -u root -h sensei password 'new-password'

Alternatively you can run:
'/usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation'

which will also give you the option of removing the test
databases and anonymous user created by default.  This is
strongly recommended for production servers.

See the MariaDB Knowledgebase at http://mariadb.com/kb or the
MySQL manual for more instructions.

You can start the MariaDB daemon with:
cd '/usr' ; /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --datadir='/var/lib/mysql'

You can test the MariaDB daemon with mysql-test-run.pl
cd '/usr/mysql-test' ; perl mysql-test-run.pl

Please report any problems at http://mariadb.org/jira

The latest information about MariaDB is available at http://mariadb.org/.
You can find additional information about the MySQL part at:
http://dev.mysql.com
Support MariaDB development by buying support/new features from
SkySQL Ab. You can contact us about this at sales@skysql.com.
Alternatively consider joining our community based development effort:
http://mariadb.com/kb/en/contributing-to-the-mariadb-project/

>> If you are migrating from MySQL, don't forget to run 'mysql_upgrade'
     after mysqld.service restart.
( 5/29) installing akonadi                         [#########################] 100%
Optional dependencies for akonadi
    postgresql: PostgreSQL backend
( 6/29) installing libdmtx                         [#########################] 100%
( 7/29) installing qrencode                        [#########################] 100%
( 8/29) installing prison                          [#########################] 100%
( 9/29) installing kdepimlibs                      [#########################] 100%
(10/29) installing gd                              [#########################] 100%
Optional dependencies for gd
    perl: bdftogd script [installed]
(11/29) installing libgphoto2                      [#########################] 100%
(12/29) installing intel-tbb                       [#########################] 100%
(13/29) installing xine-lib                        [#########################] 100%
Optional dependencies for xine-lib
    imagemagick: for using the imagemagick plugin
    jack: for using the jack plugin [installed]
    vcdimager: for using the vcd plugin
    glu: for using the opengl plugin [pending]
    wavpack: for using the wavpack plugin
    faad2: for using the faad plugin [installed]
    libmng: for using the mng plugin [installed]
    aalib: for using the aalib plugin [installed]
    libmodplug: for using the modplug plugin [installed]
    libdca: for using the dca plugin [installed]
    a52dec: for using the a52 plugin [installed]
    libmad: for using the mp3 plugin [installed]
    libmpcdec: for using the musepack plugin [installed]
    libcaca: for using the caca plugin [installed]
    libbluray: for using the bluray plugin [installed]
    gnome-vfs: for using the gnome-vfs plugin
    libvdpau: for using the VDPAU plugin [installed]
    smbclient: for using the samba plugin [installed]
    gdk-pixbuf2: for using the gdk-pixbuf plugin [installed]
(14/29) installing libraw1394                      [#########################] 100%
(15/29) installing libdc1394                       [#########################] 100%
(16/29) installing glu                             [#########################] 100%
(17/29) installing pangox-compat                   [#########################] 100%
(18/29) installing gtkglext                        [#########################] 100%
(19/29) installing opencv                          [#########################] 100%
Optional dependencies for opencv
    opencv-samples
    eigen2
    libcl: For coding with OpenCL
    python2-numpy: Python 2.x interface
(20/29) installing liblqr                          [#########################] 100%
(21/29) installing libkipi                         [#########################] 100%
(22/29) installing libkexiv2                       [#########################] 100%
(23/29) installing libraw                          [#########################] 100%
(24/29) installing libkdcraw                       [#########################] 100%
(25/29) installing libkface                        [#########################] 100%
(26/29) installing kdeedu-marble                   [#########################] 100%
Optional dependencies for kdeedu-marble
    gpsd: GPS support
    quazip: reading and displaying KMZ files
(27/29) installing libkgeomap                      [#########################] 100%
(28/29) installing lensfun                         [#########################] 100%
(29/29) installing digikam                         [#########################] 100%
Optional dependencies for digikam
    kipi-plugins: more tools and plugins
root@sensei:~/usm#

[stifiling]

francois,

something appears to be broken with your installation. try it with a new changes folder or without using changes. this is my output:

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root@KMCs_Desktop:~# pacman -S digikam
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Packages (25): akonadi-1.11.0-1  gd-2.1.0-2  gtkglext-1.2.0-9
               intel-tbb-4.2_20131118-1  kdeedu-marble-4.12.3-1
               kdepimlibs-4.12.3-1  lensfun-0.2.8-1  libdmtx-0.7.4-5
               libgphoto2-2.5.3.1-2  libical-1.0-3  libkdcraw-4.12.3-1
               libkexiv2-4.12.3-1  libkface-3.5.0-3  libkgeomap-3.5.0-3
               libkipi-4.12.3-1  liblqr-0.4.2-1  libraw-0.16.0-1
               mariadb-5.5.36-1  mariadb-clients-5.5.36-1  opencv-2.4.8-1
               pangox-compat-0.0.2-1  prison-1.1.0-1  qrencode-3.4.3-1
               xine-lib-1.2.4-3  digikam-3.5.0-3

Total Download Size:    80.32 MiB
Total Installed Size:   330.09 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] Y
:: Retrieving packages ...
 mariadb-clients-5.5...   869.7 KiB   259K/s 00:03 [----------------------]   1%
 mariadb-5.5.36-1-x86_64   11.0 MiB   261K/s 00:43 [----------------------]  13%
 akonadi-1.11.0-1-x86_64   11.7 MiB   255K/s 00:47 [----------------------]  14%
 libical-1.0-3-x86_64      11.9 MiB   249K/s 00:49 [----------------------]  14%
 libdmtx-0.7.4-5-x86_64    11.9 MiB   247K/s 00:49 [----------------------]  14%
 qrencode-3.4.3-1-x86_64   11.9 MiB   245K/s 00:50 [----------------------]  14%
 prison-1.1.0-1-x86_64     12.0 MiB   244K/s 00:50 [----------------------]  14%
 kdepimlibs-4.12.3-1...    15.9 MiB   245K/s 01:06 [----------------------]  19%
 gd-2.1.0-2-x86_64         16.0 MiB   245K/s 01:07 [----------------------]  19%
 libgphoto2-2.5.3.1-...    17.2 MiB   246K/s 01:12 [----------------------]  21%
 intel-tbb-4.2_20131...    17.5 MiB   245K/s 01:13 [----------------------]  21%
 xine-lib-1.2.4-3-x86_64   20.1 MiB   252K/s 01:22 [----------------------]  24%
 pangox-compat-0.0.2...    20.1 MiB   251K/s 01:22 [----------------------]  25%
 gtkglext-1.2.0-9-x86_64   20.3 MiB   251K/s 01:23 [----------------------]  25%
 opencv-2.4.8-1-x86_64     26.9 MiB   263K/s 01:45 [----------------------]  33%
 liblqr-0.4.2-1-x86_64     26.9 MiB   262K/s 01:45 [----------------------]  33%
 libkipi-4.12.3-1-x86_64   27.0 MiB   262K/s 01:46 [----------------------]  33%
 libkexiv2-4.12.3-1-...    27.2 MiB   262K/s 01:46 [----------------------]  33%
 libraw-0.16.0-1-x86_64    27.7 MiB   263K/s 01:48 [----------------------]  34%
 libkdcraw-4.12.3-1-...    27.8 MiB   263K/s 01:48 [----------------------]  34%
 libkface-3.5.0-3-x86_64   34.4 MiB   280K/s 02:06 [----------------------]  42%
 kdeedu-marble-4.12....    49.8 MiB   297K/s 02:52 [----------------------]  61%
 libkgeomap-3.5.0-3-...    49.9 MiB   297K/s 02:52 [----------------------]  62%
 lensfun-0.2.8-1-x86_64    50.2 MiB   297K/s 02:53 [----------------------]  62%
 digikam-3.5.0-3-x86_64    80.3 MiB   310K/s 04:26 [----------------------] 100%
(25/25) checking keys in keyring                   [----------------------] 100%
(25/25) checking package integrity                 [----------------------] 100%
(25/25) loading package files                      [----------------------] 100%
(25/25) checking for file conflicts                [----------------------] 100%
(25/25) checking available disk space              [----------------------] 100%
( 1/25) installing mariadb-clients                 [----------------------] 100%
( 2/25) installing mariadb                         [----------------------] 100%
WARNING: The host 'KMCs_Desktop' could not be looked up with resolveip.
This probably means that your libc libraries are not 100 % compatible
with this binary MariaDB version. The MariaDB daemon, mysqld, should work
normally with the exception that host name resolving will not work.
This means that you should use IP addresses instead of hostnames
when specifying MariaDB privileges !
Installing MariaDB/MySQL system tables in '/var/lib/mysql' ...
OK
Filling help tables...
OK

To start mysqld at boot time you have to copy
support-files/mysql.server to the right place for your system

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MariaDB root USER !
To do so, start the server, then issue the following commands:

'/usr/bin/mysqladmin' -u root password 'new-password'
'/usr/bin/mysqladmin' -u root -h KMCs_Desktop password 'new-password'

Alternatively you can run:
'/usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation'

which will also give you the option of removing the test
databases and anonymous user created by default.  This is
strongly recommended for production servers.

See the MariaDB Knowledgebase at http://mariadb.com/kb or the
MySQL manual for more instructions.

You can start the MariaDB daemon with:
cd '/usr' ; /usr/bin/mysqld_safe --datadir='/var/lib/mysql'

You can test the MariaDB daemon with mysql-test-run.pl
cd '/usr/mysql-test' ; perl mysql-test-run.pl

Please report any problems at http://mariadb.org/jira

The latest information about MariaDB is available at http://mariadb.org/.
You can find additional information about the MySQL part at:
http://dev.mysql.com
Support MariaDB development by buying support/new features from
SkySQL Ab. You can contact us about this at sales@skysql.com.
Alternatively consider joining our community based development effort:
http://mariadb.com/kb/en/contributing-to-the-mariadb-project/

>> If you are migrating from MySQL, don't forget to run 'mysql_upgrade'
     after mysqld.service restart.
( 3/25) installing akonadi                         [----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for akonadi
    postgresql: PostgreSQL backend
( 4/25) installing libical                         [----------------------] 100%
( 5/25) installing libdmtx                         [----------------------] 100%
( 6/25) installing qrencode                        [----------------------] 100%
( 7/25) installing prison                          [----------------------] 100%
( 8/25) installing kdepimlibs                      [----------------------] 100%
( 9/25) installing gd                              [----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for gd
    perl: bdftogd script [installed]
(10/25) installing libgphoto2                      [----------------------] 100%
(11/25) installing intel-tbb                       [----------------------] 100%
(12/25) installing xine-lib                        [----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for xine-lib
    imagemagick: for using the imagemagick plugin
    jack: for using the jack plugin [installed]
    vcdimager: for using the vcd plugin
    glu: for using the opengl plugin [installed]
    wavpack: for using the wavpack plugin [installed]
    faad2: for using the faad plugin [installed]
    libmng: for using the mng plugin [installed]
    aalib: for using the aalib plugin [installed]
    libmodplug: for using the modplug plugin [installed]
    libdca: for using the dca plugin [installed]
    a52dec: for using the a52 plugin [installed]
    libmad: for using the mp3 plugin [installed]
    libmpcdec: for using the musepack plugin [installed]
    libcaca: for using the caca plugin [installed]
    libbluray: for using the bluray plugin [installed]
    gnome-vfs: for using the gnome-vfs plugin
    libvdpau: for using the VDPAU plugin [installed]
    smbclient: for using the samba plugin [installed]
    gdk-pixbuf2: for using the gdk-pixbuf plugin [installed]
(13/25) installing pangox-compat                   [----------------------] 100%
(14/25) installing gtkglext                        [----------------------] 100%
(15/25) installing opencv                          [----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for opencv
    opencv-samples
    eigen2
    libcl: For coding with OpenCL
    python2-numpy: Python 2.x interface
(16/25) installing liblqr                          [----------------------] 100%
(17/25) installing libkipi                         [----------------------] 100%
(18/25) installing libkexiv2                       [----------------------] 100%
(19/25) installing libraw                          [----------------------] 100%
(20/25) installing libkdcraw                       [----------------------] 100%
(21/25) installing libkface                        [----------------------] 100%
(22/25) installing kdeedu-marble                   [----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for kdeedu-marble
    gpsd: GPS support
    quazip: reading and displaying KMZ files
(23/25) installing libkgeomap                      [----------------------] 100%
(24/25) installing lensfun                         [----------------------] 100%
(25/25) installing digikam                         [----------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for digikam
    kipi-plugins: more tools and plugins

i don't have any kind of special setup, just the default sensei 64 and it installed with no problem...

[francois]

Reinstalling porteus/arch sensei, I modified my first post on the first page of this thread so that my installation preferences appear in one place.

I will try digikam probably next weekend.

I have installed cups and libcups, but:
http://localhost:631/
ends up with the message host not responding.

Thanks.

[stifiling]

after installing cups & libcups...run the command:

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cupsd

and see if that gets you a little further...

[francois]

Hello stifiling,

cupsd will not change the situation.