Porteux 2.0 vs YUMi-exFAT.

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Porteux 2.0 vs YUMi-exFAT.

Post#1 by Egzoset » 03 Apr 2025, 06:55

Salut/hello.

Le système m'a donné un choix de langue alors j'ai choisi le français, mais je peux utiliser l'anglais si nécessaire.
The system gave me a choice of language options so i picked french, but i can use english just the same if required.

Le site web DistroWatch annonce la sortie de Porteux 2.0 en plusieures saveurs y compris Cinnamon que j'apprécie spécialement depuis quelques mois déjà, tandis qu'au paravant Xfce me semblait préférable, jusqu'à ce que j'essaie d'ajuster la taille des polices qui sont généralement microscopiques sur mon écran de notebook 15 pouces; la combinaison de Porteux et Cinnamon s'avérait donc irrésistible...

Hélas une fois l'ISO copiée sur mon lecteur USB YUMi-exFAT j'ai dû constater que « ça marche pas », vraiment pas pantoute: y s'passe rien à part un curseur sur fond noir.

J'avais de grand espoirs vu que Porteus 5 s'en arrangeait, alors je me dis qu'il n'y a rien d'impossible. Beaucoup de distributions sont compatibles mais pas celle-là, voilà pourquoi j'ai ouvert un compte, afin de rapporter l'anomalie. C'est franchement dommage, Porteux aurait pu devenir une solution passe-partout. D'ailleurs j'ai une antiquité sur laquelle je songeais à le tester, à condition de trouver un écran VGA avec clavier à prise du type PS/2... Bienvenue au musée! Bref pour le plaisir du défi, à condition qu'il demeure modeste.

Il serait possible je suppose de graver un CD-ROM qui existe physiquement, quoique la lenteur pénible de ce genre d'opération m'a laissé un souvenir impérissable qui fait grandement hésiter tandis que copier l'ISO sur dongle USB ne requiert même pas une minute!

En conclusion le support YUMi-exFAT d'une version future serait grandement apprécié. :showoff:

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Post#2 by Ed_P » 03 Apr 2025, 22:26

Have you written to YUMI to have them fix their problem?

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Post#3 by nanZor » 03 Apr 2025, 22:51

I don't know why the utter simplicity of the installation doc and technique gets missed / not read.

Interestingly enough, YUMI now uses the "Ventoy technology", whereas in the past, it actually dearchived the iso, and re-wrote it onto the stick, but with a long chain of bootloaders.

Much simpler to follow the installation docs. In my rocking-chair, I'd always suggest that a first-timer do that at least once, and THEN get guru later. :)
That's a UNIX book - cool. -Garth

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Post#4 by Egzoset » 06 Apr 2025, 14:57

Ed_P wrote:
03 Apr 2025, 22:26
Have you written to YUMI to have them fix their problem?
That's assuming YUMi-exFAT is the problem, while it does list Porteux v5, which used to work until i got broken if i recall correctly:

[ https://yumiusb.com/yumi-exfat/ ]
YUMI exFAT (2025-Apr-3)

Lets simply mention PorteuX ain't there at all and this confirms my slogan « Fix Once, Break many ». Or perhaps it's the other way around...
nanZor wrote:
03 Apr 2025, 22:51
I don't know why the utter simplicity of the installation doc and technique gets missed/not read.
Indeed, it beats my fertile imagination, and my appreciation for the rocking-chair too!

At least i found a VGA screen and PS/2 keyboard, lets see if i still have an IDE CD drive in working order somewhere, or i might want to get an IDE/SATA adapter and pray for the best when all parts are finally put together.

It would be a pleasure to return with an update!

:hi:

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Post#5 by nanZor » 06 Apr 2025, 21:07

Yep - keep it fun - whatever works for you. But like all other distros, be it Porteus, AntiX, whatever ... one is on their own if the 3rd party bootloader doesn't work.

Support nightmare right? "It works on Ventoy, but not on Yumi, neither on MyMultiBoot_Plus, what's wrong?" - why don't you guys fix it? What's with the com32 error? (coming from the 3rd-party broken custom boot script, NOT the distro maintainer) ... see where I'm going?

Anyway just mount the iso. Copy all the folders to Fat32 stick. Run the dedicated Porteus bootloader script *from the target drive*. Eject or unmount nicely! I think this part gets missed a lot.

Anyway, if you still want the Yumi thing, see if their option to "Try Unlisted Iso" works. But if it doesn't work, you get to keep both pieces! :)
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Post#6 by Egzoset » 08 Apr 2025, 04:37

nanZor wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 21:07
see where I'm going?
Nowhere.

I see 2 main scenarios, mine implies that Porteus/PorteuX are made (or remain...) compatible right from the source. Yours would require this whole process to be managed as many times as there are potential users just to evaluate it, hence my previous verdict: « Break Once, Fix Many » in this present case...

Some quick look at my YUMi-exFAT USB drive shows over a hundred bootable items occupying nearly half a 512 GB SSD unit, grouped into a dozen flavours of desktop with boot-time variants including GrUB2 mode, ToRAM, Braille, Speech and LIVE vs Install. All available from a single boot menu via a couple keypresses. Consequently, the idea of keeping this many dedicated USB thumbdrives around only to waste time sorting through them all is, euh... Oh well, i'm sure you see where that's going indeed!

So, thanks but no thanks. My initial post was only meant as an observation anyway, the rest doesn't actually concern me with such multitude of ready-made options at hand.

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