xfce4 4.16 manual starting xfce4-popups fail

[Rava]

Using XFCE 4.16

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003-xfce.xzm:20220925

Since I still have not fixed my 3rd mouse button issue (see another thread of mine from yours truly here: viewtopic.php?f=117&t=10735 ), I try calling the middle-mouse click on desktop menu manually.

But it would not work.

Calling e.g.

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xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu
xfce4-about

work but are of no use.

Calling

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xfce4-popup-directorymenu
xfce4-popup-windowmenu
xfce4-popup-whiskermenu

all fail and report a return value of "1" without giving me any verbose info what went wrong.

Do I need a kind of wrapper-app that calls the xfce4-popups for me for it to work?

[beny]

hi, i don't have found nothing with your screenshot check the model with inxi end report please

[Rava]

hi, i don't have found nothing with your screenshot check the model with inxi end report please

I have not added a screenshot.
And what do you mean by "model"? Could it be you meant "module"?

and if you do, I presume you meant the XFCE module?

[beny]

the model of the mouse in the screenshot

[Rava]

the model of the mouse in the screenshot

IBM MO28BO cable, optical, wheel.

[beny]

hi Rava take a look here:https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Mouse_buttons but your device is a bit old the ibm review is from 2002

[Rava]

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xev -event button | grep button

displays sometimes the middle button, and sometimes not.

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grep -E "Name|Handlers" /proc/bus/input/devices | grep -E -B1 'Handlers.*mouse'

gives the mouse as

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N: Name="ARROW STRONG USB 3D Mouse"

and that is the device as listed by XFCE.

I think it is due to some dirt, I already tried to clean it bit you can hardly get to the spot where the 3rd button is recorded.

[beny]

hi Rava maybe there is dust inside or fluff...

[Rava]

hi Rava maybe there is dust inside or fluff...

I already opened it and tried to clean it, but apparently not good enough.

But still it is an older model, the kind of mice generation that lasted really long, nowadays most mice are of much inferior quality, so i will open it again and either use a tool for blowing air (not jut blow with my mouth)or use a tool to clean it.

But back to my issue.
Do you know how i can get XFCE to actually run the failed commands via terminal?

I mean these ones:

xfce4-popup-directorymenu
xfce4-popup-windowmenu
xfce4-popup-whiskermenu

[donald]

Do you have the applets installed in the panel?

Directory Menu
Window Menu
Whisker Menu

and are the scripts in /usr/bin/ ?

I'm asking because the 3 commands posted
xfce4-popup-directorymenu
xfce4-popup-windowmenu
xfce4-popup-whiskermenu

work (at least on my system) only if the panel applets are in the panel.

[Rava]

work (at least on my system) only if the panel applets are in the panel.

What do you mean by that?
That the applets must be added to the panel?

I presume the xfce4-popup-windowmenu is the one what you normally get when middle-button clicking on the empty desktop - displays the windows currently running on all desktops.

[beny]

the micro switch look is the pressure is good to press the micro maybe is too light

[donald]

work (at least on my system) only if the panel applets are in the panel.

What do you mean by that?
That the applets must be added to the panel?

If you want the commands you posted:
xfce4-popup-directorymenu
xfce4-popup-windowmenu
xfce4-popup-whiskermenu
to actually work, then yes.

[Rava]

^
Indeed that did the trick.

I added "Window Menu" and indeed, now xfce4-popup-windowmenu works when starting from the terminal.
Not that I now need it starting from the terminal any more as now I can simple start it from the panel.

So I guess the reasons why the 2 named xfce4-popup-* worked by themselves was simple because they already have been part of the panel.

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the micro switch look is the pressure is good to press the micro maybe is too light

I tried is applying more pressure but the result is the same.
At times middle-click works at the first click, at times it works at 2nd to 5th click, and at times it not works when doing 10 or 15 clicks.
Most probably due to dust or fluff that i was unable to remove when I already opened it.