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GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 19:39
by rcrsf
I'm trying to get minimal for when only running one program, and am wondering: Is it possible to run a program (e.g. Firefox or LibreOffice) without loading any of the Porteus desktops (kde/mate/xfce/lxqt)?
I tried some stuff like "xinit -- /usr/bin/firefox", but so far just trial-and-error(s).
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 22:40
by ncmprhnsbl
AFAIK i dont think so, that is, you need some sort of window manager, to run gtk apps..
check out
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=4053 for a *relatively* lightweight fluxbox setup..
future porteus releases will include a minimal openbox wm for what you're doing,
in the meantime, have a look at the "Nemesis" development branch
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5066
which has this function...
apart from that, look into twm or xorg-twm
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 12 Feb 2016, 13:56
by francois
I have read somewhere in the documentation of arch Linux that you could open a web browser in xorg only.
However, I have been unable to find the arch wiki about it. I will report it I find the information. If should be tied to autologin in xorg or in graphical mode.
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 13 Feb 2016, 03:25
by aus9
Its not xorg me thinks as some distros now have wayland graphics.
It may relate to the dependencies like gtk or whatever and they may need to find a xorg lib file etc
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 13 Feb 2016, 09:46
by francois
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 13 Feb 2016, 18:52
by Bogomips
^ Thanks, francois. Nice, informative link.
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 13 Feb 2016, 19:37
by francois
@bogomips:
As I never implemented the strategy under porteus or arch, I will be glad to hear that you have achieve it.
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 10:30
by fullmoonremix
Salutations...
Perhaps you are looking for this?
Twin (windowing system
https://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
Caveat?
Your mileage my vary... besides (being unattractive?) even if you avoid a GUI window manager
(and/or environment?), you still will have trouble avoiding the major application toolkits (Qt/Gtk) or Mesa.
Perhaps what you is NEED is this?
PekWM
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
And this...
http://fifth-browser.sourceforge.net/
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=5419
Or this...
NetSurf
Open/Flux(box) although lightweight they still rely on Gtk/Mesa. PekWM only uses
XCB and does not rely on Mesa.
Also Palemoon (Firefox?) although lightweight still relies on Gtk. Fifth uses
FLTK . NetSurf uses
XCB and/or xlib.
Sorry... I forgot to also make this shameless plug...
Xfe
http://slakfinder.org/index.php?act=sea ... e=#results
If you go this route you will NOT completely avoid toolkits but you will end up with an attractive... faster... smaller memory/resource footprint.
When I switched to Porteus from Android I was big on status quo. Now I have seen the "light" (pun intended) with a little help from my friends @ Porteus.
The revolution will NOT be televised...
I'm going rogue.
Best Regards...
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 03:46
by ncmprhnsbl
thankyou francois, my knowledge(such as it is) has been expanded...
Re: GUI program in Porteus without window manager?
Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 10:41
by brokenman
Perhaps what you need is porteus kiosk.