XFCE 4.12 mouse cursor size change not visible

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XFCE 4.12 mouse cursor size change not visible

Post#1 by Rava » 07 Oct 2022, 16:39

System Port 5.0 with XFCE 4.12 aka 003-xfce-4.12-20220725 module.

When in Settings / Mouse and Touchpad / Theme changing the mouse cursor size, the new size is not displayed - the mouse cursor stays the same.

Is there some kind of trick needed, e.g. restarting a kind of mouse daemon to actually see what the new size looks like?

Or can one only save the settings and wait for the next bootup?

The setting itself is stored in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml as

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<property name="CursorThemeSize" type="int" value="24"/>
Default is this:

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<property name="CursorThemeSize" type="int" value="16"/>
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XFCE 4.12 mouse cursor size change not visible

Post#2 by ncmprhnsbl » 08 Oct 2022, 00:13

Rava wrote:
07 Oct 2022, 16:39
Or can one only save the settings and wait for the next bootup?
try logging out/in
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Post#3 by Rava » 08 Oct 2022, 00:15

ncmprhnsbl wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 00:13
try logging out/in
Will that kill my running programs?
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Post#4 by ncmprhnsbl » 08 Oct 2022, 02:03

Rava wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 00:15
Will that kill my running programs?
sure will.. maybe something that doesn't require and is detached from an xsession might continue.
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Post#5 by Rava » 08 Oct 2022, 02:08

ncmprhnsbl wrote:
08 Oct 2022, 02:03
sure will.. maybe something that doesn't require and is detached from an xsession might continue.
I not only have to reboot but have to REISUB because an GIMP "sam.pack" module broke my system due to GLIBC issues.

More details for your entertainment :D here:
GIMP - no "cropping to selection" for animated GIFs

REISUB in three, two, one, …

Added in 16 minutes 13 seconds:
Update
I rebooted (due to the GIMP module breaking my GLIBC) - the setting claims my mouse cursor size now being 24 instead of 16… but it looks the very same as before. :wall:

Maybe some unsolved XFCE 4.12 issue.
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Post#6 by ncmprhnsbl » 08 Oct 2022, 06:43

ok, can't speak to 4.12, but in 4.16: changing the cursor size between 16 to 28 does nothing..
at 29 to size increases and then at 41 it increases again , which is then the maximum regardless of the number above that..

so scaling in three ranges: 16 to 28 smallest, 29 to 40 middle, 41 to 76 largest.
this most likely to do with the paper cursor theme than anything else..
there's most likely other themes out there that scale 'more smoothly' but my guess is that they'd be chunkyer mb-wise..
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Post#7 by Rava » 08 Oct 2022, 06:54

^
Ahhh I did not know that, thinking about it that all makes sense, and when we use the same paper cursor theme it should behave that same way, regardless if it's in XFCE 4.12, 4.14 or 4.16.
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Post#8 by gnintilgyes » 20 Oct 2022, 06:54

I've given up totally on XFCE only for this reason. I had used Void Linux which insisted on that D.E. and only desired the mouse cursor a bit larger. Remained so small I couldn't see it sometimes although it was the arrow and not the text-include one. I made one desperate try downloading a few "themes" and installing them but realized that mouse cursor was something that was never going to be changed. And so I abandoned that distro.

Another thing was the stupid smooth-scrolling done by Mousepad, Thunar and other programs which was driving me crazy. I wanted to disable all animations. Can't do it neither in KDE Plasma, and about v5.25 of that desktop they totally changed the touchpad options so I always have to deal with accidental scrolling out of my clumsy way of using the touchpad. I liked it better in NeptuneOS and Slackware which came with older versions of Plasma but also no way to defeat all the animations and the other eye-tiring RAM-greedy effects.

That's why I have MATE on Porteus but I don't like "dark mode" and I wish I could make the top-right icons a bit larger.

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Post#9 by Rava » 21 Oct 2022, 01:47

gnintilgyes wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 06:54
Another thing was the stupid smooth-scrolling done by Mousepad, Thunar and other programs
YOu mean the thingy where such programs insist of 90% hiding the scroll bar and randomly switching the scroll bar visible and invisible?

Yeah, that one bothered me a lot as well.
For some reason, at least in the current 003-xfce module with V4.16 that is a thing of the past, for mousepad at least. Thank goodness for that.
gnintilgyes wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 06:54
no way to defeat all the animations and the other eye-tiring RAM-greedy effects.
I get it that they think such effects are needed, I personally know of some windoze users who complain about W being quite slow, but when I tell them how to switch off all that transparent plasma OS design thingy (that was back then when Witless 7 was the most recent version) they all claimed they needed that design (1st world problem much? - how can one claim to "need" such silly effects, seriously…) and would not want to switch to a less animated less transparent OS… all the while keeping on complaining about the slowness of it all.

One of the reasons I stopped bothering with SM-Windows altogether and when folks have issues I tell them switching to a slim Live Linux instead that usually is able to handle 99% of all the tasks they daily do. All the while they can keep their SM-Witless and go back to that for the 1% task Linux can not handle natively.

Usually I tell them to either use Knoppix which is by design not meant to be installed as a standard installation at all or… Porteus. :D
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