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Posted: 07 Jul 2019, 03:07
by babam
neko wrote:
06 Jul 2019, 15:43
@babam
I don't know about Paragon.
Paragon NTFS for linux (Free version) download here

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Posted: 07 Jul 2019, 05:25
by Ed_P
I write files to NTFS partitions all the time with Porteus. And I have with versions 3 - 5.

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Posted: 07 Jul 2019, 05:59
by babam
@Ed_P But NTFS-3G ( FUSE based ) is very slow ( write speed ).

I have to wait a long time when copying large files ( .iso, .mp4 )

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Posted: 07 Jul 2019, 08:20
by burdi01
My experiences with ntfs-3g are that writing files is more than speedy enough, it is creating the files that is slow. So copying from ntfs-3g via usb 3.0 to ntfs-3g my 131G backup directory with relatively large and hence relatively few files takes 14 mins, but doing the same for a 125G documents directory with many smaller files grinds to a halt.
:D

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Posted: 07 Jul 2019, 13:33
by Ed_P
Part of your problem babam is using NTFS on a USB drive. NTFS is for hard drives. For flash drives use FAT, or exFAT if larger than 32 GB. NTFS is a journaling file system which creates extra IO when writing files. USB ports also aren't as fast as hard drives which doesn't help.

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Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 15:22
by babam
@neko

Maybe this is the cause of failure when building Paragon

Code: Select all

 conftest.c:9:28: fatal error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory
conftest.c:9:28: fatal error: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory
conftest.c:55:29: fatal error: 1/radix-tree.h: No such file or directory

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Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 15:34
by neko
1. "Porteus Kernel Builder" was updated.
2. Most recent versions of build examples were updated.

Please refer to the top article of this thread.
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@babam
I am studying about Paragon.


Thanks.

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Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 11:20
by fulalas
Ed_P wrote:
07 Jul 2019, 13:33
Part of your problem babam is using NTFS on a USB drive. NTFS is for hard drives. For flash drives use FAT, or exFAT if larger than 32 GB. NTFS is a journaling file system which creates extra IO when writing files. USB ports also aren't as fast as hard drives which doesn't help.
This is simply not true.

NTFS can be used on portable units like USB sticks without any problem. And, contrary to what happens with FAT units, NTFS has full support to symlinks :good:

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Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 14:18
by Ed_P
Oh, it's very true. :angry:

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Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 15:03
by M. Eerie
Yes, symlinks are supported in NTFS, but not in FAT filesystem.

FAT supports EFI, but you can't boot EFI witih NTFS.

And this is where the journey begins with laptops and secure boot and BIOS updates...

Cheers!

P.S.: I asked in another thread if anyone knows how to create a USB stick with a FAT boot partition and another (NTFS) partition for data / modules (with symbolic links, etc.)

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Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 16:24
by M. Eerie
@neko san,

The last kernel version working well for me in Nemesis/Aporteus is 5.1.15.

Thenceforth, I'm experiencing sloooow boot times. (I think you too). :%)

Thank you.

Cheers!

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Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 18:07
by Ed_P
M. Eerie wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 15:03
P.S.: I asked in another thread if anyone knows how to create a USB stick with a FAT boot partition and another (NTFS) partition for data / modules (with symbolic links, etc.)
I would think GParted could do that but why not make the 2nd partition ext4 or some other Linux flavor which supports symlinks? NTFS doesn't buy you anything since Windows only accesses the 1st partition on removable drives.

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Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 21:33
by M. Eerie
Yes, I guess you're right.

The question is, NTFS is readable for many devices out there. Think of using the USB stick to a wide range of multimedia files, videos, music, epubs...

I'm on my way to find the perfect mobility solution on my pocket ;)

Also, would I be able to load my custom modules from there?

Thanks

:)

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Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 22:15
by Ed_P
M. Eerie wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 21:33
The question is, NTFS is readable for many devices out there.
May be but not necessarily as a 2nd partition. FAT32 on a 1st partition is read by everything.

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Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 22:49
by Rava
M. Eerie wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 15:03
Yes, symlinks are supported in NTFS, but not in FAT filesystem.
Not true for older Windoze versions, e.g. NTFS created by Windoze-XP is unable to use symlinks, at least from Windoze 7 onwards it is true what you wrote.