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Post#1 by Bicephale » 17 Nov 2018, 11:08

Hi there!

It's been a long while so i'm totally disconnected now, but i've been experimenting with Linux again recently and realized maybe Porteus/Slax would have something to offer in the situation described as follows...

The PC to revalorize is a cheap 2-parts LapTop/Tablet that's more like a nano-PC: the Insignia Flex 11.6 NS-P11W7100-C. At 1st i expected it would be easy and convenient to use it in combination with my network TV server so i can carry it around, euh... but then i discovered part of its peripherals only enjoy marginal Linux support and that's "flaky" at best: starting with the MMC/NCard stuff, but not only.

:sos:

Initially Windows 10 kept disturbing me so many times i eventually wanted to taste and enjoy the satisfaction of deleting its partition - and i did just that finally! - but not before having accumulated quite some redundant backup in case nothing works. Since the begining i had given my best futile efforts over quite a few ideas until i read about the 32/64 bits boot problem, and ultimately "Linuxium" which could fix it for me by "re-spinning" an ISO, at least in principle.

But the complicated reading alone made my courage plumet fast so i resorted to these ready-made downloads intead:

  • linuxium-v4.17-rc6-lubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64 (1.2G)
  • linuxium-linuxmint-18.3-xfce-64bit (1.8G)
  • linuxium-v4.17-rc6-elementaryos-0.4.1-stable.20180214 (1.8G)
  • linuxium-atom-ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64 (2.1G)

Though in practice only Ubuntu completed installation so i could get a better perspective now of what i don't like about such hardware: it's still the i2C bus on which too many of this machine's peripherals depend (as i recall) i'm afraid; although i do seem to have gained access to its internal MMC drive and micro-SD flash card reader (with a 128 GB ammovible limit) i regret to admit trouble with the later occurs after a few minutes: the only semi-reliable use i got for it under Linux is for brief file accesses. Music plays but when i try videos it's like the more i use it the faster it fails. That's why i suspect this bottleneck may never be resolved and hence i'm back to days with Slax/Porteus run from RAM memory... But that's forgetting the 32/64 bits problem created by its peculiar boot loader, whatever.

Euh...

It's so tiresome i'm starting to regret posting about it too, because the more i write the less clear it feels! :juggler:

All i know with confidence is that the MMC and micro-SD storage spaces may work fine and long enough to load an "image" of Linux in RAM, with VLC Media Player, LiRC support for an MCE remote control and BlueTooth/WiFi for wireless earphones and internet access. This is a proper challenge for Slax/Porteus the larger Linux flavour may be unfit for, considering the limited RAM memory of 2GB only... In any case having Ubuntu installed on its internal 32GB MMC/NCard i could compare with its "Live" version and that's why i'm here now: "Live" mode, with a tist, suggesting the Linuxium trend is a perfect niche where Slax/Porteus can effectively shine, because those have a long history with severely limited material that looses value fast at the hands of Microsoft Windows and even regular Linux releases. Instead of a flash USB thumb drive the image can reside on MMC space i figure.

Years ago inclusion of PlOP was a nice gesture in favour of compatibility, perhaps a Linuxium spin would make a great update to that today.

My 2 cents. :lightbulb:

I feel like expressing admiration for keeping up the good work despite adversity in a consumer's world anyway!

:thumbsup:

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Post#2 by nanZor » 01 May 2019, 04:43

Instead of a "linixium spin" of Porteus, you can have your cake and eat it too by running Porteus directly with a caveat. I'm satisfied with a similar project I've detailed here:

hackin' on an Atom z8350 mini pc

Basically, I took the slacker's way out, and whatever didn't work, I just hung on a little passive 4-way usb hub. Wifi, bluetooth, even the crappy sd-card slot that doesn't work, gets put onto the hub with a dongle that does. MUCH less hassle than a custom spin. :)

And, I dual-boot windows 10 (as much as I don't like it) this way - if your bios can boot from the usb, then use that for Porteus if you like. You have to tap F7, DEL or some other key usually to get to the bios boot order option. It all depends of course.

And if for some reason you can't get the 4.0 version of Porteus to install from it's own windows exe utility inside the iso properly, or don't have any other linux box around, I've burnt the Porteus image using Rufus and specifying the GPT method instead of mbr to create it so that it will boot with UEFI. That method hasn't failed me yet with Porteus on a variety of UEFI only machines.
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Post#3 by Bicephale » 10 May 2021, 16:17

Hi again...

Well i revisited that distribution and it's the Porteus FireFox module which took me back here in minutes. Actually it seems i may be overdue for some report!

:wheelchair:

1st of all it didn't suffice just to download the Porteus .ISO and transfer it to Flash support, much less on a u-SD unit which simply doesn't exist until the OS is done loading i2c_designware related drivers as i found out. Which only leaves the detachable keyboard's 2 USB2 accesses while i planed to play games with a wireless gamepad and an external set of keyboard + mouse also connected... Still searching for BlueTooth support as i intended to have music, etc. Briefly put one bright spot with Porteus is its ability to fit in "RAM" and release the boot USB port for re-use by one of those peripherals. But the original .ISO wouldn't boot anyway.

Years ago i noticed work done on Linuxium and i've got lucky that its author continued his work because i managed to hack his most recent atom .ISO version based on GrUB and UEFi features, while Porteus appeared to get launched by syslinux... So i manually created a couple linux/initrd lines to adapt the old Linuxium grub.cfg configuration and luckily this went fine enough to report that here. Sorry for the delay, not to mention failure to acknowledge the reply and respond in good time!!

Next step shall be to investigate KExec-Loader, as i recall. Because now that i have access to /mnt/mmcblk2p1 with a duplicata of my USB boot drive ready it should become possible to run Porteus from there, hoping someday there's further improvement performed. M'well at least it's no 32 bits Linux and it got WiFi + sound ready, a good start until i get time to read the reply and reflect on it.

Thank you for trying nonetheless. :roll:

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Post#4 by neko » 28 May 2021, 04:39

APorteus-XFCE_ja-v21.05.30-x86_64.iso (656 M)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4p3ds1od ... x86_64.iso
md5sum: 47804398bc4fb2757e40bbacab006cea APorteus-XFCE_ja-v21.05.30-x86_64.iso

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About a year ago, I bought a cheap PC & TABLET called RM-A107-SR.
CPU: Intel Cherry Trail T3-Z8350 / (Quad core 1.92GHz)
RAM: 4GB
ROM: 64GB
I was planning to install APorteus on it.

Now, I made APorteus with the kernel modified so that it sounds, and made it work.
(Wi-Fi OK, Sound OK)

[How to create a boot USB]
Run this ISO itself on another PC,
start "create live USB" from the GUI,
create a USB with EFI and set this ISO itself.

If I have more time (had more skill), I would fix some issues.


Thanks.

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