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Out of The Box Everything.
Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 15:29
by limotux
Well, Just my 2 cents.
I was ditrohopping for a few months, and I can say I fell in love the first few minutes with Porteus. I say it is my first true love.
But unfortunately (from my point of view at least) WiFi for an real old laptop (BCM blah blah) was not detected/installed automatically.
I wonder why not!
The drivers are there already (used other distros that automatically detected it, all what I needed to do is just enter my wifi password).
As far as I know there is open source software that detects the hardware of the machine, then installs needed driver (whether from the downloaded ISO or over the internet).
Why can't we have everything running out of the box if other distros can?
This is an amazing distro but....
just do it. I believe this should be top priority to make Porteus the top distro in Linux.
I don't know if there are other simple things like that that can add a lot!
P.S. Unfortunately I had to settle and stop distrohopping with another distro that got everything out of the box! But Still... I loved Porteus
Out of The Box Everything.
Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 15:57
by Jack
In a root terminal you type nmtui you can set it up there.
Out of The Box Everything.
Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 16:07
by limotux
Jack wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 15:57
n a root terminal you type nmtui you can set it up there.
Remains the question, the same question.
Why should anybody do it? Why did other distros do it? Why doesn't Porteus just do it like other distros? Why it is not out of the box if others can do it? Why.....
Out of The Box Everything.
Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 16:16
by Jack
limotux wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 16:07
Jack wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 15:57
n a root terminal you type nmtui you can set it up there.
Remains the question, the same question.
Why should anybody do it? Why did other distros do it? Why doesn't Porteus just do it like other distros? Why it is not out of the box if others can do it? Why.....
If you used it and it see your connection and it will setup the password and save it if you booted in graphics mode only. If don't see your connection then you might need another WiFi card. I know this because it happen to me with my 2008 Dell laptop.
Out of The Box Everything.
Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 16:52
by limotux
Jack wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 16:16
then you might need another WiFi card
Why should I? Why other distros got it? Why not Porteus?
The same questions remain... why... why... why....
Out of The Box Everything.
Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 17:55
by Jack
limotux wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 16:52
Jack wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 16:16
then you might need another WiFi card
Why should I? Why other distros got it? Why not Porteus?
The same questions remain... why... why... why....
I don't know why. You need to ask someone else about that. SORRY
Type this and post the output and do it in root they are
lspci and
lsusb
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Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 17:58
by Ed_P
limotux wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 15:29
Why can't we have everything running out of the box if other distros can?
Porteus is designed to be small and portable, which means only the drivers and apps needed by users is included. Other distros are designed to work with all hardware and have all available apps included, regardless who needs them and don't care how big they are, like Windows.
In a terminal window, run the following and post the results
limotux.
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su
Password: toor
lspci | grep -i network
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Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 08:07
by limotux
Jack wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 17:55
I don't know why. You need to ask someone else about that. SORRY
OH! No need to be sorry! I assume Porteus developers watch the forums.
What I am saying is just because I really loved Porteus.
I hope developers look at other distros that get everything up and running out of the box.
As far as I remember these distros did it:
https://distrowatch.com/mx
https://distrowatch.com/endeavour
https://distrowatch.com/manjaro
https://distrowatch.com/opensuse
https://distrowatch.com/pclinuxos
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=redcore
I remember one of them at least had an app that detects the hardware and installs the required drivers. IWhy not Porteus.
Maybe some others.
If they could do it why can't Porteus?
I believe getting everything running out of the box should be the top and only priority till it is done. (I didn't even reach the stage of using a graphical package manager which should be there as well with all repos available by default)
I hope it will be done so I can install Porteus (out of the box AND a graphical package manager)
Out of The Box Everything.
Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 12:54
by limotux
Ed_P wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 17:58
lspci | grep -i network
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[limo@localhost ~]$ lspci | grep -i network
02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
What about package manager?
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Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 13:04
by limotux
Ed_P wrote: ↑15 Nov 2021, 17:58
which means only the drivers and apps needed by users is included
This is the point. Definitely WiFi, Graphics, Graphic Package manager are needed by any user.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 13:29
by beny
your wifi module is ok on kernel and driver, if you wish to load it maybe your wifi up and running.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 13:45
by Ed_P
limotux wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 12:54
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[limo@localhost ~]$ lspci | grep -i network
02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
What about package manager?
Yup, Broadcom. I suspected as much. It is a problem and being worked on. Package Manager is a problem also at this point. And these are some of the reasons why 5.0 is still a
release
candidate.
limotux wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 13:04
This is the point. Definitely WiFi, Graphics, Graphic Package manager are needed by any user.
If you want a more complete system you should use one of the Porteus 4.0 distributions.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 14:17
by limotux
beny wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 13:29
your wifi module is ok on kernel and driver, if you wish to load it maybe your wifi up and running.
It didn't show up or any other WiFi of the neighbors though I added a WiFi connection through the app and by following instructions above!
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Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 14:54
by babam
limotux, Try to install/activate kernel-firmware
Out of The Box Everything.
Posted: 16 Nov 2021, 14:58
by limotux
babam wrote: ↑16 Nov 2021, 14:54
limotux, Try to install/activate kernel-firmware
It is ok. English is not my mother tongue
I hope someone will stay online till I get this sorted out.
I'll get DSL cable and see