I. Remarks & Request for Additional Information
Well, it looks like those who helped with Nemesis have hastened the demise of Porteus as we know it.
Don't forget, us mods took a load off their shoulders as well.francois wrote:- user empowerment
- we do not take enough care of our developpers
Be realistic, francois. No matter how experienced one is, one cannot volunteer for the job if one does not know what it entails. Unless of course one has experience of putting out a distro. How can one volunteer to do a job or a task, when said task is only now being specified by your good self? If the task/situation is not advertised it can't be taken up!francois wrote:Nobody with coding expertise has offered to take fanthom's place even to maintain some porteus slackware version., even some minimal version with only one desktop or even without xorg and no desktop. So here we need some volunteers with coding and linux expertise. Everyone want the work done, but no one wants to do the job.
Point of Confusion
This Time Round
brokenman wrote:Mostly these reasons would be assistance from the community to actively develop. Over the years people have come and gone. Finding people with ability to develop and ability to stay is not so easy.
With Nemesis, I presume?brokenman wrote:Hey, feel free to help out any time. It would be much appreciated.For example it is not good when the distribuition depends only on one Man.
Last Time Around
Post of 15 Jan 2015
I for one offered publicly in the hope that this would induce others to come forward. dunno if anyone else did, but the offer was never taken up. So francois, one is being given to think devs are being choosy, saying prepared to accept one thing, but actually wanting more.brokenman wrote:Skills needed
Programming skills
We will take whatever you can give.
Programming languages
We will take whatever you can give. PHP, gtkdialog, C++
Not very forthcoming answers in some instances at a time when there is a need for us to be better informed.
If not a commercial secret, just what is Kiosk based upon?brokenman wrote:Will Porteus Kiosk still be Slackware based?
Still? It isn't slackware based now.
Non-English Speaking User Base.
IMHO this whole swathe of users should not be excluded from the discussion. Do not know about others, but perusal of Russian section leads me to suspect a sizable user base. With Blaze firmly in the Arch camp, perhaps someone like Paulby could sound them out for offers of help to keep the status quo, in keeping with what tome has already stated to the effect better the devil we know ...
(Also come across one very adept Porteus user here, with several years understanding of the system.)
Cold hard look
Post of 12 Oct 2015:
Could this whole topic/discussion be seen as an attempt to force the issue?brokenman wrote:It is an attempt at having a system for people to help develop the OS. A community developed OS. It uses systemd which is a good chance to get to know how it works if that's your end goal.wread wrote:i don't quite understand the use of nemesis. Only because of systemd? or because of pcman?
So far many people are reporting bugs which is great. Until today nobody has registered a bitbucket account to actually help with development. Writing code. This is what I am hoping will happen
Further on in same Post:
So far not heard a screeching halt. So who are the other coders?brokenman wrote:Nemesis intends to offer a fully finished desktop environment. Of course, this can only be realized if we get more people actually helping develop. If it is just me coding then things will grind to a screeching halt very soon. I simply don't have the time to devote to running it by myself. If it remains only me then I will release the final 002 stage and then leave it available but not maintained.
My priority is the standard Porteus, and my time could better be used there.
Wish people would refrain from discussing procedural matters as if the outcome of the discussion was a foregone conclusion, even if it is. After only two days over a weekend, apart from all those who are not back at their desk tops till Monday, one is being given to feel shut out of a discussion, before it has really begun, or being given a chance to voice a considered opinion, The week end as it happens has been particularly hectic. haven't had a spare moment to jot down all my thoughts, and you guys are already wrapping everything up. Don't like this kind of pressure. This is to say the very least infuriating! (Spare a thought for all the others with real life commitments over the weekend)