How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

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How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#1 by wread » 24 Aug 2013, 00:23

1.- Frugal Installation to HD,
2.-000-kernel.zxm, 001-core.xzm, 002-xorg.xzm in base,
3.-Name, LAMP, Mail, Samba, Proxy servers...
4.-??

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Re: How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#2 by Hamza » 14 Oct 2013, 13:54

NGINX + PHPFM + MYSQL.

000 + 001 + devel modules.
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Re: How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#3 by Rava » 19 Oct 2013, 08:10

Why would you need xorg for a server?
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Re: How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#4 by wread » 19 Oct 2013, 13:25

I guess one could use gui applications to make settings on the server -it is more confortable- . After all, xorg.xzm is not so heavy...well, i will put 002 in parenthesis

Now, including the considerations of Hamza I will rewrite it:

1.- Frugal Installation to HD,
2.-000-kernel.zxm, 001-core.xzm, (002-xorg.xzm) in base,
3.-Name, LAMP, Mail, Samba, Proxy servers...
4.-NGINX + PHPFM + MYSQL,
5.-??

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Re: How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#5 by Rava » 19 Oct 2013, 17:30

wread wrote:I guess one could use gui applications to make settings on the server -it is more confortable- . After all, xorg.xzm is not so heavy...well, i will put 002 in parenthesis
There is one neat config thingy, that lets you config any LDAP or more server via webbrowser GUI / local net, aka 192.168.x.x ...

Sadly, I forgot its name, but I would sure include that one and leave out the xserver. It might be a small module, but it uses too much system resources. When I remember the name of that graphical config via http I post here. :)
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Post#6 by wread » 19 Oct 2013, 20:34

Do you mean "swat" ? I think swat is for samba only....
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Post#7 by Rava » 19 Oct 2013, 21:37

wread wrote:Do you mean "swat" ? I think swat is for samba only....
Nope, it's sure not swap... I saw its screenshot on http://www.linux-praxis.de/linux3/swat.html and the one I looked at when I realized a company I visited was using it and I never heard about it, was sure more complex and also better designed than what I see on that screenshot in the above link...

I sure put the name and a link in one of my info texts about administration, but dunno on which of my dozens USB sticks it might be... *shrug*
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Post#8 by wread » 21 Oct 2013, 00:05

I know, you mean Putty (=Power user tty). Putty is a modern replacement -with bells and whistles- of the old telnet.
I have it myself in "modules" many months ago. I thought I had posted it in the forum. There it is.

Tell me if this is the one you mean.

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Post#9 by Rava » 21 Oct 2013, 00:50

wread wrote:I know, you mean Putty (=Power user tty).
Nope, I know putty.

What I mean is a neat, modern styled (I not looked into the html code, but presume it uses css as well) GUI, that you use in any browser to config stuff on a server, so that all can be configured without the need of xorg (or any Xwindows, that is) running on that server, but still have it configured in a neat GUI like way...

I might recall the name of the company that uses it, they admin safe (highly encrypted) & automated cloud based data backups, and are located in the next town to mine... And use Linux as main server platform, of course...
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Re: How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#10 by mocabilly » 21 Oct 2013, 20:21

How about security?

If your Porteus server is going to be connected to the internet 24/24 - 7/7 you surely need some protection?
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Re: How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#11 by att » 05 Nov 2013, 16:52

I would need : VNCSERVER, VNCVIEWER, Teamviewer preferably 8 or 9 (beta of 9 was just released),
bftpd, ssh, .... usenet server... exim as mail server... sendmail... is there any Fax software to receive and transmit fax ?
Samba... active directory... printer server... etc.etc. :D

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Post#12 by mocabilly » 05 Nov 2013, 18:36

att wrote:I would need : VNCSERVER, VNCVIEWER, Teamviewer preferably 8 or 9 (beta of 9 was just released)
Why do you need a GUI for the server?
What's so great about Teamviewer, it breaks the connection after what, 10 min.?
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Re: How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#13 by wread » 16 Nov 2013, 11:14

Teamviewer would be needed to control our server remotely, I think; TeamV. doesn't have to be part of the server itself -so we can leave x out- ... or?

How about editions: 32-bits, 64 or both editions? I guess 64-bits gives a more powerful server...

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Re: How would a Porteus "Server Edition" look like?

Post#14 by mocabilly » 16 Nov 2013, 16:06

wread wrote:Teamviewer would be needed to control our server remotely, I think; TeamV. doesn't have to be part of the server itself -so we can leave x out- ... or?
... what about good old SSH?
- Less overhead
- Less bandwidth required
- More secure
- Does not use third party services... -> more secure/stable & better up-time.

SSH just seems so obvious, and if you can't control a server from the terminal, don't think about starting up and maintaining a server at all.
And if you really would need an X-environment, use X over SSH (be cautious with your settings there).
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Post#15 by Rava » 09 Dec 2013, 06:00

mocabilly wrote:... what about good old SSH?
- Less overhead
- Less bandwidth required
- More secure
- Does not use third party services... -> more secure/stable & better up-time.

SSH just seems so obvious
I fully agree, ssh should be part of a Porteus "Server Edition".
Maybe with a setup GUI for creating and export or import the needed data to have the known and allowed PCs for ssh?

So far, I only know console based setups...
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