Post links to your 64bit module repos here. Repo maintainers are responsible for resolving any issues caused by their xzm's.
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Post#16
by Rava » 05 Sep 2022, 16:00
But do they all work in Port 5.0?
Very old one likely will not, only slightly older ones might.
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Post#17
by JTD » 05 Sep 2022, 17:07
Rava wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 11:37
I tried finding the mentioned 6.22 … but no luck.
Well, the wine-7.0-x86_64.xzm is okay with its 93.82 MB.
I might try versions 6.22 onwards from that sourceforge site to see where the .wine folder size spike really happened.
Rava wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 16:00
But do they all work in Port 5.0?
Very old one likely will not, only slightly older ones might.
YeahI had an issue where old Multilib versions would not work on 5.0 (something about glibc version I think, Porteus wouldn't even start after trying to read the module on startup), so I imagine older Wine versions would have issues as well (Maybe downloading downward versions too to see which version stops being compatible with 5.0).
One thing I find odd is that wine-7.0 did not ask me for Wine Mono, unlike the 7.15 provided by
fulalas which did, both on fresh Porteus (no wine configuration made prior to running winecfg).
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Post#18
by AcnapyxoB » 05 Sep 2022, 17:25
JTD wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 17:07
One thing I find odd is that wine-7.0 did not ask me for Wine Mono
the reason is because first run settings are integrated into wine module in /home/guest
If anyone is interested wine-7.0 with Mono (142.4 MB):
https://disk.yandex.com/d/-muAvMGFp-_LRQ
md5: 699410345d2f7759dc7bcfc96f490ddd
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Post#19
by rych » 06 Sep 2022, 09:44
Rava wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 11:37
the mentioned 6.22
I have wine-6.22-x86_64-1sg.xzm of the same size 93MB as the wine-7.0-x86_64.xzm, so no further reduction in size. The next question is how big your $HOME/.wine has become with wine-7.0? With wine-6.22 the .wine folder was just 73MB whereas wine-7.15 increased it to 1.2GB.
OK, I went ahead and checked: wine-7.0 still creates $HOME/.wine folder of just 73MB. Therefore the below modules currently make the best Wine (the huge sizes of 7.15 must be a bug)
Code: Select all
wine-7.0-x86_64.xzm
0050-multilib-ultralite-x86_64-20220312.xzm
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AcnapyxoB, please keep sharing good wine modules
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Post#20
by JTD » 06 Sep 2022, 10:16
AcnapyxoB wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 17:25
the reason is because first run settings are integrated into wine module in /home/guest
I see, that's very clever, that way Wine loads faster on every fresh start.
I very much am. That's even better for me, thank you for providing Wine with Mono as well!
Here are some of my screenshots for
rych
The infamous 7.15:
7.0:
7.0 (with Mono):
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Post#21
by Rava » 06 Sep 2022, 10:59
rych wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 09:44
I have wine-6.22-x86_64-1sg.xzm of the same size 93MB as the wine-7.0-x86_64.xzm, so no further reduction in size. The next question is how big your $HOME/.wine has become with wine-7.0? With wine-6.22 the .wine folder was just 73MB whereas wine-7.15 increased it to 1.2GB.
I was obviously not clear enough on that. With "size" I also ment the minimal needed space in $HOME … and it looks like that 6.22 is known to be reasonable in its use (73 MB) while 7.15 is lunatic (1.2GB… who has by default 1.2GB free on his/her RAM disc - or does the setup ask where to put the data, aka move it out of the RAM disc and onto a physical drive)
Can you please share your 6.22 x86-64 - when that runs in Port 5.0.
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Post#22
by Ed_P » 06 Sep 2022, 16:15
rych wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 09:44
0050-multilib-ultralite-x86_64-20220312.xzm
Where does one get this module? Or is it the Mono module?
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Post#23
by AcnapyxoB » 06 Sep 2022, 17:26
Ed_P wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 16:15
Where does one get this module?
Ed_P see the first post!
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Post#24
by Ed_P » 06 Sep 2022, 17:49
AcnapyxoB wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 17:26
Ed_P see the first post!
Thank you.
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Post#25
by rych » 07 Sep 2022, 09:56
JTD wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:16
AcnapyxoB wrote: ↑
05 Sep 2022, 18:25
the reason is because first run settings are integrated into wine module in /home/guest
I see, that's very clever, that way Wine loads faster on every fresh start.
Thank you both. Indeed a good idea, but in my case I had to extract the wine-7.0-x86_64.xzm, move inside home/guest --> root folder and change its ownership to root:root, because I don't use guest. Combining wine and $HOME/.wine stuff is brilliant. Of course, every running winecfg or any wine program (or every reboot?!), the $HOME/.wine will get amended slightly as an overlay which will be recorded in your changes, but the base 73MB bulk of it is inside wine-7.0-x86_64.xzm!
Rava wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:59
Can you please share your 6.22 x86-64
The wine-7.0-x86_64.xzm is actually smaller than 6.22! And newer, and smarter
Just use that maybe?
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Post#26
by Rava » 07 Sep 2022, 10:03
rych wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 09:56
The wine-7.0-x86_64.xzm is actually smaller than 6.22! And newer, and smarter
Just use that maybe?
But what with the size of $HOME/.wine ?
When 7.0 $HOME/.wine is 1.2 GB (unacceptable, at least for me),
and 6.22 is according to you a mere 73MB (pleasant small)
- how big is $HOME/.wine in 7.0?
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Post#27
by rych » 08 Sep 2022, 10:42
Rava wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 10:03
When 7.0 $HOME/.wine is 1.2 GB (unacceptable, at least for me),
and 6.22 is according to you a mere 73MB (pleasant small)
$HOME/.wine sizes:
wine 7.15 - 1.2GB
wine 7 - 3MB (changes overlay on top of 73MB that's part of the module itself)
wine 6.22 - 73MB
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Post#28
by Rava » 08 Sep 2022, 10:47
rych wrote: ↑08 Sep 2022, 10:42
$HOME/.wine sizes:
wine 7.15 - 1.2GB
wine 7 - 3MB (changes overlay on top of 73MB that's part of the module itself)
wine 6.22 - 73MB
So, wine 7.0 is the smallest by far.
Obviously, me no longer interested in Wine 6.22
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Post#29
by gnintilgyes » 14 Sep 2022, 18:13
Thank you very much for this. Seriously, thank you. This is a non-compromise requirement for using GNU/Linux and for making it more likely for me to abandon Windows. Although I have made an exception only for Porteus. However I wasn't able to install Slackware and otherwise, the difficulty with using Wine, despite "Alienbob's" excellent instructions about "multilib" has kept me away.
Great work Porteus team. I wish I could donate to this project. Very ingeniously done modular OS that starts up quickly. I'm using MATE desktop environment. I was able to build QB64PE without dependencies by installing the "05-devel.xzm". Now I have a bunch of games I created with that programming system bundled into a single "optional" XZM.
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Post#30
by Rava » 15 Sep 2022, 01:34
gnintilgyes wrote: ↑14 Sep 2022, 18:13
Thank you very much for this. Seriously, thank you. This is a non-compromise requirement for using GNU/Linux and for making it more likely for me to abandon Windows. Although I have made an exception only for Porteus.
gnintilgyes wrote: ↑14 Sep 2022, 18:13
I wish I could donate to this project.
Easy as pie:
http://www.porteus.org/donate.html
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