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linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#1 by francois » 30 Dec 2018, 00:59

Now I have that usb key with porteus on it SOLVED: linux usb key recognized in window 10
Essentially, I have on that usb key a first win32 partition (on which the porteus boot folder which refer to the porteus system on the second partition, this second linux is ext2 and there is finally a third partition ext2.

I use it on a supposedly very performing computer:
ASUS Gaming Thin and Light Laptop, 15.6-inch Full HD , Intel Core i7-7700HQ Processor, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD, GeForce GTX 1060 3GB

How come porteus is it so slow to boot and to load programs when I called them?
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#2 by francois » 30 Dec 2018, 01:07

I just added a linux swap, it seems a little bit better.

Although, I did move linux guest and vbox modules to optional, they really slow down the bootup process.
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#3 by francois » 30 Dec 2018, 15:28

Removed changes folder and now it is a lot better.
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#4 by Rava » 30 Dec 2018, 17:51

With any USB thumbdrive, unless it is USB 3.0, booting and especially the changes folder settings is always slower.

I always try to make a porteus live system on the hard drive, then I have a backup system with that PC in any case. (Usually I boot up Windoze like once, or twice a year, not more than that.)

Good choice to keep out the changes folder or saving changes in a container, I never do so, it takes a bit of work learning which settings and files and folders you want to save into something like a e.g. 990-rootcopy.xzm module, but it is rewarding in itself to learn more about the system you plan to work with for the next months or years. :)

Just my 2 cents on all that, but there are several reasons why I refrain from using a changes folder or a save container, speed is one, added security is yet another. :D
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#5 by francois » 30 Dec 2018, 19:12

I am working with the poor man install (frugal) since the creation of porteus. B)

:happy62: This is not a container as I work with linux file system. Usually, yes I get a basic change folder and convert it into a module to have my favorite tweaks handy.
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#6 by Rava » 30 Dec 2018, 21:54

francois wrote:
30 Dec 2018, 19:12
I am working with the poor man install (frugal) since the creation of porteus. B)

:happy62: This is not a container as I work with linux file system. Usually, yes I get a basic change folder and convert it into a module to have my favorite tweaks handy.
So, you are saying that you indeed booted from the internal hard disk, and the usb thumbdrive is ... used for what exactly, then?
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#7 by francois » 30 Dec 2018, 23:22

I have frugal on the toshiba satellite z930, my less recent laptop.

Recently, interested by VR (virtual reality), I bought the ASUS Gaming Thin and Light Laptop, windows 10, with an Oculus rift. This with the intent of doing VR therapy for different type of psychological difficulties with french and canadian softwares.

The ASUS has the DT50 usb key with 3 partitions.
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#8 by francois » 13 Jan 2019, 20:54

Installing directly linux on the ASUS Gaming Thin on the second disk wich is hdd. I read somewhere that you gain speed of access if you partition the hdd into two equal partitions. To be able to boot EFI, I had to interspace these two partifion. I have a 1TB hdd on sdb:

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[fl-pc fl]# fdisk -l
Disque /dev/sda : 119.2 GiB, 128035676160 octets, 250069680 secteurs
Modèle de disque : SanDisk SD8SNAT1
Unités : secteur de 1 × 512 = 512 octets
Taille de secteur (logique / physique) : 512 octets / 512 octets
taille d'E/S (minimale / optimale) : 512 octets / 512 octets
Type d'étiquette de disque : gpt
Identifiant de disque : 5D36B5CE-9BF7-4994-9CAF-1218A3AE50E4

Périphérique     Début       Fin  Secteurs Taille Type
/dev/sda1         2048    534527    532480   260M Système EFI
/dev/sda2       534528    567295     32768    16M Réservé Microsoft
/dev/sda3       567296 248430591 247863296 118.2G Données de base Microsoft
/dev/sda4    248430592 250068991   1638400   800M Environnement de récupération Windows

Disque /dev/sdb : 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 octets, 1953525168 secteurs
Modèle de disque : TOSHIBA MQ01ABD1
Unités : secteur de 1 × 512 = 512 octets
Taille de secteur (logique / physique) : 512 octets / 4096 octets
taille d'E/S (minimale / optimale) : 4096 octets / 4096 octets
Type d'étiquette de disque : gpt
Identifiant de disque : B6E5572E-5DC7-4654-B768-D8441B05F958

Périphérique     Début        Fin  Secteurs Taille Type
/dev/sdb1         2048  976762879 976760832 465.8G Données de base Microsoft
/dev/sdb2    976762880  977295359    532480   260M Données de base Microsoft
/dev/sdb3    977295360 1953525134 976229775 465.5G Système de fichiers Linux

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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#9 by Rava » 14 Jan 2019, 05:51

francois wrote:
13 Jan 2019, 20:54
Installing directly linux on the ASUS Gaming Thin on the second disk wich is hdd. I read somewhere that you gain speed of access if you partition the hdd into two equal partitions. To be able to boot EFI, I had to interspace these two partifion. I have a 1TB hdd on sdb:
I heard from several sources that starting cylinders of a hard disk are always the quicker ones, so I try to get my Linux swap partition as far to the beginning of a hard disk as I can, often there is the need to keep sda1 as WItlessOS hidden start partition (a usually small one), so the first possible Linux swap partition usually is sda2

However, I have no idea how the starting cylinders of a hard disk are always the quicker ones is effective in contrast to your you gain speed of access if you partition the hdd into two equal partitions theory.
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#10 by Ed_P » 14 Jan 2019, 05:54

On older systems the drive's partition table is usually at the beginning of the drive.
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#11 by francois » 14 Jan 2019, 15:33

Here is a thread on pros and cons of partitioning hdd:
https://superuser.com/questions/908095/ ... erformance

But maybe we should start another thread. We might be off topic.
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#12 by Ed_P » 14 Jan 2019, 16:47

A good link francois. It explains the concepts well. My hdd is partitioned; EFI, OS, Data, Backups along with a couple of system recovery partitions.
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Re: linux usb key recognized in window 10 (bis)

Post#13 by francois » 23 Jan 2019, 00:10

Rava wrote:
30 Dec 2018, 17:51
With any USB thumbdrive, unless it is USB 3.0, booting and especially the changes folder settings is always slower.

I always try to make a porteus live system on the hard drive, then I have a backup system with that PC in any case. (Usually I boot up Windoze like once, or twice a year, not more than that.)

Good choice to keep out the changes folder or saving changes in a container, I never do so, it takes a bit of work learning which settings and files and folders you want to save into something like a e.g. 990-rootcopy.xzm module, but it is rewarding in itself to learn more about the system you plan to work with for the next months or years. :)

Just my 2 cents on all that, but there are several reasons why I refrain from using a changes folder or a save container, speed is one, added security is yet another. :D
I always use linux file system with linux. No container for me. But turning the save changes folder into a module is my way. So if there is corruption with later changes, I have basic modifications.
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