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Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 23 Sep 2020, 11:16
by Kulle
Hi burdi01,
the ISO is very old (based on Porteus 4.0, 32 bit), and it works!
But the current version (issue 5/2020) is based now on Porteus 5.0rc1
and this has the strange mistake that I can't explain to myself.

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 23 Sep 2020, 15:01
by burdi01
I am not sure how to get that issue over here.
So, if you want to pursue things, provide me with that ISO.
:D

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Posted: 02 Oct 2020, 21:03
by francois
Time to join new porteus ver 5.0 release candidate 2. Porteus is like a good wine, it gets better and tastier with age. It deserves the interest of the linux community.

From distrowatch satisfaction ratings and comments, the satisfaction level is quite high given the size of the development team and of the community.
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resou ... elpful=Yes

Porteus deserves a KISS.

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 04:31
by Rava
francois wrote:
02 Oct 2020, 21:03
From distrowatch satisfaction ratings and comments, the satisfaction level is quite high given the size of the development team and of the community.
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resou ... elpful=Yes
The newest reply:
I am using an Acer Aspire 4732z from 2009 with 1GB RAM and I can't install KDE into my 64GB sd card, which I wanted to make a portable OS. LXDE works fine but I don't like the blue corners of the UI. This distro kinda gives me a headache to install and is not recommended for those who wanted to move from windows to linux. There's even a graphical glitch in the KDE version of Porteus.

I'll wait for another year to reinstall this OS back. Hope they'll improve it someday even more.
(He gave 4 out of 10 and calls Porteus "great", Le Sigh ¹¹ )

I wonder, why is that person not making a free (as in speech and beer) account on the forum and gives us the details so that we can approve.

Many laptops use self-brewed hardware and the company gives SM-Windowser all the info they need, and Linux has to figure out all by ourselves.
It is noit the fault from Linux when a hardware resource claims it can "manage XY at a spd of 80 Whatver" when it only manages that resource at 40 at best. Windows ahem I meant SM-Windowser knows about that and addresses that hardware part as if it only can be bothered with a speed of 40, even when the resource itself claims it can handle double the speed.

This has been like so for ages, and it seems many SM-Windowser user willing to use Linux on older hardware still have not got the memo.

People, we ned detailed bug reports to improve Porteus.

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Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 22:21
by francois
People that do not take the time to get to know porteus have that type of comments. They look for the ubuntu experience.

Read the other comments, and you will get hyper. We have great respect amongst the community.

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 22:53
by Rava
francois wrote:
31 Oct 2020, 22:21
People that do not take the time to get to know porteus have that type of comment. They look for the ubuntu experience.
You mean bloated, almost as slow as SM-Witless OS?
francois wrote:
31 Oct 2020, 22:21
Read the other comments, and you will get hyper. We have great respect amongst the community.
Will do, I can use some good time, I had a very rough day.

:)

Reading it now; one user only commented on how you can use the P for kiosk, but should the kiosk branch of Port not be a different OS, and have its separate user reply place on https://distrowatch.com
Maybe it is so and the user picked the wrong entry, but maybe there is no entry for port Kiosk. like I knew in advance that the Wikipedia editors will reject the notion of having Port Kiosk as a stand alone wiki entry. I knew because there have been some blockheads who claimed Port is too insignificant to have a Wikipedia entry at all - to that another wiki editor replied with listing Windoze 1.x and 2.x versions all as single wiki pages, when these OS are of no interest to anyone nowadays. To that the nagging wiki editor had no reply. :D

And Francois, you sure have been correct of how fine some reviews are, like this one goes down like the finest vine:
Whenever I install something on any other OS, I always get this nagging feeling, what if this breaks my system?

Not so on porteus. Install something as a module, put in the the modules folder, if it breaks, just delete the module. The rest of the system and modules are magically restored!

Same with the live system. I can run any command on the live system, without any worries of what if this hoses my system?

I know systems like puppy does it too. But Porteus is the only system that is as minimal as puppy or tiny core, but provides much more functionality and looks great too!

Great concept on a great OS. Keep up the good work!
:Yahoo!: Fun fact, this is exactly what most o0f us aim for, so good a user sees just that in Port. <B

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 23:28
by francois
In fact, we should read thoroughly the critiques of porteus on distrowatch. I think it could help us to make it better. One critique is about the installation. Some other is about package installation. Another is about persistence. Manjaro has a message page that you can remove once the system is running, maybe this would be a way to introduce newcomers to the essentials of porteus.

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 23:52
by Rava
francois wrote:
31 Oct 2020, 23:28
Manjaro has a message page that you can remove once the system is running, maybe this would be a way to introduce newcomers to the essentials of porteus.
that sounds like a good idea, but the Rava that I am, I suggest a cheat code that disabled that on-first-run-only info box for the advanced and seasoned users.

When we include that option (and I hope we do) we should at least tell the advanced users about the cheatcode.
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And then i just found this gem:
the forum is one of the best in linux community.
Oh the love!

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cons: I miss a photo editor by default. I know, I can creat a module, but that shouldn't be too big to include by default.
I know many people see a graphics editor as essential, and I always boot any of my Porteus with mtPaint. It can do most of the jobs, and for the rest I fire up the GIMP, or use GraphicsMagick (I prefer that to ImageMagick)
Lets make a poll and ask if users on here want an image editor included by default in 5.0 finale version, but put into the optional folder.
mtpaint-3.50.x86_64.xzm is tiny 604 KB! The additional size cannot really be an argument against adding that image editor!

The only downsize of that version is no support for webp images. My fav image viewer Viewnior supports webp when the system supports it, which is why i created 030-webp-pixbuf-loader-20191003.fb04954-x86_64-1_slonly.xzm - 8kB in size. And viewnior not only displays webp images it can also alter and save them without issue, because it used the DE support for all image formats for doing the stuff it does. Not so for mtPaint, sadly. Maybe I ask the recent author of it to include webp support, when you want good quality with low compression and minimal artefacts but small filesize, webp is much superior to jpeg.
One of the few things Gooourgle did 100% right. :happy62:

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 01:40
by ncmprhnsbl
Rava wrote:
31 Oct 2020, 23:52
The only downsize of that version is no support for webp images.
https://github.com/wjaguar/mtPaint support for webp is there. just need libwebp and configure option: webp

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 11:07
by Rava
^
I installed 032-webp-pixbuf-loader-20191003.fb04954-x86_64-1_slonly.xzm cause I was told thats what I need so that I can watch webp with Viewnior, maybe there is a slighly larger solution that will support Viewnior and giving me also full load and saving in mtPaint I would go for that.

GIMP not needs anything additional, it can handle all webp even when no other program in the system can watch these.

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 19:04
by francois
From an old thread of mine on photography, amonst other for its simplicity photoprint:
packages for photographies manipulation or printing

Photoprint is easy to use. Just set the number per page photographs that you want and drop the photos from any folder on that page.
http://jcornuz.wordpress.com/2008/09/21 ... st-friend/

Photoprint porteus 4.0 compatible:
https://packages.slackonly.com/pub/pack ... slonly.txz
You will need the following library:
http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackw ... 6_64-4.txz

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 21:46
by Rava
francois wrote:
01 Nov 2020, 19:04
Photoprint porteus 4.0 compatible:
https://packages.slackonly.com/pub/pack ... slonly.txz
You will need the following library:
http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackw ... 6_64-4.txz
Why should it not work for Port 5.0rc[12]? It is based on 14.2 Slackware, so it should fit, no?

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 02 Nov 2020, 16:58
by francois
It should, I imagine. As much as all my other porteus 4.0 packages, seem to be working. Just try it. :)

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 02 Nov 2020, 17:07
by Rava
francois wrote:
02 Nov 2020, 16:58
It should, I imagine. As much as all my other porteus 4.0 packages, seem to be working. Just try it. :)
Some few did not, I thing Graphics Magick and/or blender among the few exceptions, but almost all can be used in 4.0 and 5.0. :magic:

Porteus linux on the net or on the waves of the web

Posted: 05 Nov 2020, 00:45
by francois
@rava:
The proposition of a info screen manjaro like does not get a warm welcome! :(
Why not an optional welcome window at first boot for ver. 5.0