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Post#1 by francois » 02 Oct 2023, 10:14

Which pdf reader do you use?
Please provide the name of your prefferred pdf reader and how you install it on your porteus 5.0 installation? Your comments on the different pdf readers that you have used are welcome.

Pertinent information on pdf softwares:
There are four different kind of pdf software,, they are defined in this link:
https://www.kofax.com/learn/blog/compar ... difference
-pdf viewer
-pdf creator
-pdf converter
-pdf editor

A table from wikipedia, provides the information related to the type of software: viewer, creator, converter and editor:
List of PDF software

Note:
additionnal list of pdf applications
- arch linux. I did not explored it much yet. You surely can look at it.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PDF,_PS_and_DjVu
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Post#2 by francois » 02 Oct 2023, 10:26

Personnally I used to use foxit pdf reader. It was quite satisfying under porteus 4.0. But since then it often freezes.

Here is the installation procedure for ubuntu, it works for porteus:
https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-inst ... -04-linux/

Dowload link:
https://www.foxit.com/fr/downloads/#Foxit-Reader/

Critique:
The program will freeze frequently. The reason is that they have stopped the linux version development.
https://kb.foxit.com/hc/en-us/community ... -even-beta
Maybe an other way is going with the window edition thru wine.

Looking at what is available for porteus thru gslapt, there is at least two options:
pdfstudio
https://www.qoppa.com/pdfstudio/
It is free for less then 10 users installation.

master pdf editor
https://code-industry.net/masterpdfeditor/
module by gomway
New Working Modules and Custom Porteus ISOs

It is not free
https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/is-master ... ee-or-not/

I will look at these and report.
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Post#3 by babam » 02 Oct 2023, 13:47

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Sorry, my English is bad.

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Post#4 by Rava » 02 Oct 2023, 14:06

I use the one that comes with XFCE (4.12, 4.16): epdfview

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root@rava:/# cat /var/lib/pkgtools/packages/epdfview-gtk3-0.2.0-x86_64-1
PACKAGE NAME:     epdfview-gtk3-0.2.0-x86_64-1
COMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     52K
UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     200K
PACKAGE LOCATION: epdfview-gtk3-0.2.0-x86_64-1.txz
PACKAGE DESCRIPTION:
FILE LIST:
./
usr/
usr/bin/
usr/bin/epdfview
usr/share/
usr/share/applications/
usr/share/applications/epdfview.desktop
usr/share/epdfview/
usr/share/epdfview/pixmaps/
usr/share/epdfview/pixmaps/stock_find_next_24.png
usr/share/epdfview/pixmaps/stock_find_previous_24.png
usr/share/epdfview/pixmaps/stock_rotate-270.png
usr/share/epdfview/pixmaps/stock_rotate-90.png
usr/share/epdfview/pixmaps/stock_zoom-page-width.png
usr/share/epdfview/ui/
usr/share/epdfview/ui/epdfview-ui.xml
usr/share/icons/
usr/share/icons/hicolor/
usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/
usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/
usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/epdfview.png
usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/
usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/
usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/epdfview.png
usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/
usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/
usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/epdfview.png
200K uncompressed, so quite small.
This is what it looks like in FullHD monitor rotate left Porteus 5.0 XFCE 4.16
Image
Full view:
https://abload.de/img/epdfview_fullhd_rot-znen9.webp

(Got the silly test pdf from here)

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Post#5 by Rapha_ » 02 Oct 2023, 20:17

You can use Firefox as a Pdf reader ...Firefox can also save a page as a Pdf (Print > save a page as a Pdf)

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Post#6 by Rava » 02 Oct 2023, 20:23

Rapha_ wrote:
02 Oct 2023, 20:17
You can use Firefox as a Pdf reader ...Firefox can also save a page as a Pdf (Print > save a page as a Pdf)
So can Palemoon.
Be aware what's the standard location for the saved PDF:
~/mozilla.pdf It tells you so prior saving (and you can choose another location and a different name) but when you not look at that info might be you look for the pdf in e.g. /tmp/ :roll:
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Post#7 by francois » 03 Oct 2023, 00:43

There seems to be a difference between pdf viewer, reader and editor:
https://www.kofax.com/learn/blog/compar ... difference
PDF4QT would be a pdf editor. Personnally, I would like a pdf editor :
A PDF editor lets you encrypt documents, add form fields, change and modify text, edit images, and much more.

Description for PDF4QT
https://jakubmelka.github.io/
Install PDF4QT

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root@porteus:/home/guest# git clone https://github.com/JakubMelka/PDF4QT.git
I am trying it now.

Note:
pdf studio will provide edition only with the pro version which seems to be a paying edition.
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Post#8 by Rava » 03 Oct 2023, 11:26

^
Free and Open Office suits can also export PDF for free, but that's not what you are looking for.
francois wrote:
03 Oct 2023, 00:43
There seems to be a difference between pdf viewer, reader and editor:
What's the difference between a pdf viewer and reader? Both can only display a pdf, non?
While an editor can, you know, edit.
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Post#9 by Rapha_ » 03 Oct 2023, 12:21

Available in Porteus , To edit a Pdf you have :

  • LibreOffice

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Post#10 by francois » 04 Oct 2023, 09:29

@rapha and rava:
Thanks for the info.

@rava:
There is four different kind of pdf software according to:
https://www.kofax.com/learn/blog/compar ... difference
-pdf viewer
-pdf creator
-pdf converter
-pdf editor

Please refer to the hyperlink for more details on the definitions of each type of software.

The table mentionned in my first post which is from wikipedia, provides the information related to the type of software: viewer, creator, converter and editor:
List of PDF software
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Post#11 by francois » 04 Oct 2023, 09:32

PDF4QT:
.deb package graciously provided by the author and maintainer:
https://github.com/JakubMelka/PDF4QT/re ... -1.3.5.deb

readme for PDF4QT will provide dependencies and building of the package with install, make ...
https://github.com/JakubMelka/PDF4QT#readme

First post of this thread updated on the different type of pdf software, their definition and their classification (a table is provided).

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Post#12 by Rava » 04 Oct 2023, 11:51

francois wrote:
04 Oct 2023, 09:32
PDF4QT:
.deb package graciously provided by the author and maintainer:
https://github.com/JakubMelka/PDF4QT/re ... -1.3.5.deb
I presume by the QT part of its name, it requires QT (which is not part of a minimal XFCE environment). Am I correct on that?

When I use my epub reader (an outdated version, but I prefer it due to its slim needs on dependencies) I have to load 1.79 MB for the module and 4.13 MB for its QT dependencies (stripped down to the bare minimum: qt-4.8.4STRIPPED+liblinebreak-2.1) - but I presume that dependency module would hardly be enough for PDF4QT-1.3.5.deb

https://github.com/JakubMelka/PDF4QT#readme only mentions "qt" but no specifics.
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Post#13 by francois » 05 Oct 2023, 16:06

I use porteus hdd install. And I have Qt.

The maintainer provides the necessary libraries in the readme hyperlinked above and here:
https://github.com/JakubMelka/PDF4QT#readme
Several third-party libraries are used.

libjpeg, see https://www.ijg.org/
FreeType, see https://www.freetype.org/index.html, FTL license used
OpenJPEG, implementing Jpeg2000, see https://www.openjpeg.org/, 2-clause MIT license
Qt, https://www.qt.io/, LGPL license used
OpenSSL, https://www.openssl.org/, Apache 2.0 license
LittleCMS, http://www.littlecms.com/
zlib, https://zlib.net/

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Post#14 by itrukrakso » 05 Oct 2023, 17:31

Hi,
For years the best pdf viewer for me is qpdfview.
The current version 0.5.0 is a tabbed pdf document viewer.
It requires Qt and has printing support for cups, which some other viewers don't have, but is important for me.

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Post#15 by francois » 06 Oct 2023, 01:35

Printing support is important for me too! :)
Foxit reader was very satisfying in terms of the features it offered. I functioned well under porteus 4.x. Alas, the linux version is no longer maintained.
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