PorteuX as the sole operating system on the SSD hard drive

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PorteuX as the sole operating system on the SSD hard drive

Post#16 by nanZor » 09 Jun 2025, 23:15

Straying a bit here, but the developer of Rufus points out that it should be possible (especially these days) to boot from NTFS, and not Fat32, as long as one has the driver for it: (scroll to readme). The gist is that most uefi *hardware* only recognizes fat32, not ntfs, so a software driver workaround he provides emulates this support. I know I haven't run across any hardware/firmware in my pile that will uefi boot ntfs, that's for sure. In other words, the UEFI specs allow for it, but the actual manufacturer metal doesn't!

https://github.com/pbatard/uefi-ntfs

The problem in years past was of course the bike-shed arguments about what the UEFI specs are, and of course not wanting to support ntfs for ideological reasons. I get it.

But from a purely scientific standpoint, those who do use NTFS may be intrigued enough to create a boot stick that does not in fact need Fat32! This of course is/was pitch-fork argument territory. :evil:

Maybe Porteux can pull this off?
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PorteuX as the sole operating system on the SSD hard drive

Post#17 by Ed_P » 09 Jun 2025, 23:44

NTFS is a journaling format designed for hard drives, ie bad for USB drives, more overhead, slower, more wear. For large drives USB drives use exFAT, which most new ones come formatted as..

EFI machines require the EFI folder to be on a FAT32 drive. If you don't want a 1TB drive as FAT32 use exFAT. Want to boot it on EFI hardware, partition it. A 500MB FAT32 EFI drive is fine. A 1GB FAT32 EFI drive will even support a whole PorteuX system. :good:

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Post#18 by nanZor » 09 Jun 2025, 23:54

Yep. Just saying, as a nice experiment for the PorteuX dev, he might want to play.

This is what Akeo was pointing out. The misinterpretation of the UEFI specs being mandated by the manufacturer firmware support, not the actual spec re filesystems to boot from.

Ie, the "EFI machines require the EFI folder to be on a FAT32 drive." That is a manufacturer decision, limiting the spec, but it gets interpreted as holy scripture. Then the pitchforks come out. :)

But I get ya' Ed. Is it practical, or mere playtime? Considering the cheap cost of drives these days, almost disposable, it could be an interesting project.
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