Two Firefox desktop files

[Ed_P]

Why does the Firefox module have two .desktop application files?

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guest@porteus:/usr/share/applications$ diff browser.desktop mozilla-firefox.desktop
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< #MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;text/mml;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;
---
> MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;text/mml;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;
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< NoDisplay=true
guest@porteus:/usr/share/applications$ 

Do other browsers have two also?

[ncmprhnsbl]

browser.desktop is a panel only .desktop that changes to whatever the last activated browser module is. (and opens the browser update/chooser tool when no browser module activated)
only works on some 003-DE panels. cinnamon is one that doesn't.
only been this way for maybe 10+ years

[Ed_P]

only works on some 003-DE panels. cinnamon is one that doesn't.

It certainly was working in my Cinnamon (003-cinnamon.xzm:20231229) when I was running Firefox 119 that's why I asked. Now that I've upgraded to Firefox 122 it's gone.

BTW Is there a parm for starting Firefox in a certain screen/desktop location?
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[ncmprhnsbl]

t certainly was working in my Cinnamon

news to me

BTW Is there a parm for starting Firefox in a certain screen/desktop location?

if cinnamon has that level of fine grain control (starting certain apps on a particular workspace) i've never seen where it would be set

[donald]

--> starting certain apps on a particular workspace <--
can be done -- with a bit of trickery.

install the wmctrl command [wmctrl-1.07-x86_64-3dj.txz] - 28kB

...run your application(s) per script
> sleep some sec to make sure they are fully loaded
> let wmctrl move them to the desired workspace.
[wmctrl -r <program> -t <workspace>]
done.

[Ed_P]

install the wmctrl command [wmctrl-1.07-x86_64-3dj.txz] - 28kB

That looks promising donald. Thank you.

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guest@porteus:~$ slapt-mod -s wmctrl
Please enter root's password
Password: 
wmctrl-1.07-x86_64-2salix15.0  (tool to interact with an X Window Manager)
guest@porteus:~$ 

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guest@porteus:~$ slapt-mod -m wmctrl
Please enter root's password
Password: 
Reading Package Lists...Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  wmctrl 
0 upgraded, 0 reinstalled, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove, 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 27.0kB of archives.
Do you want to continue? [y/N] y
1/1 Get http://slackware.uk/salix/x86_64/extra-15.0/ wmctrl 1.07-x86_64-2salix15.0 [27.0kB]...Done

Done
Verifying package wmctrl-1.07-x86_64-2salix15.0.txz.
Installing package wmctrl-1.07-x86_64-2salix15.0.txz:
PACKAGE DESCRIPTION:
# wmctrl (tool to interact with an X Window Manager)
#
# The wmctrl program is a command line tool to interact with an
# EWMH/NetWM-compatible X Window Manager. It provides command line
# access to almost all the features defined in the EWMH specification.
#
# Homepage: http://sweb.cz/tripie/utils/wmctrl
#
Package wmctrl-1.07-x86_64-2salix15.0.txz installed.
Parallel mksquashfs: Using 8 processors
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	root (0)
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	root (0)

====> '/tmp/wmctrl-1.07-x86_64-2salix15.0.xzm' was created successfully.

guest@porteus:~$ 

[donald]

This script work for me

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#!/bin/bash

(palemoon &)  & sleep 10 &&
bash -c "wmctrl -i -r `wmctrl -l | grep -i moon` -t 1"

I use palemoon in this script - substitute it with your app.

It start the browser, wait 10 sec (you can adjust the sleep time)
and then move the browser (or whatever) to the 2nd workspace.

XFCE-user(s)
only 1 workspace is configured by default - you can add more.(settings > workspaces)

and 2nd:
if you (double)click a script file in thunar, it is opened in mousepad.
..we will/can change that to execute the script as the default action.

a) quit thunar:

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thunar -q

b) run:

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xfconf-query --channel thunar --property /misc-exec-shell-scripts-by-default  --create --type bool --set true

c) check:

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xfconf-query -l -c thunar

there should be a line /misc-exec-shell-scripts-by-default
now, if you (double)click a script file, it will be executed.

[Ed_P]

Thank you donald. I'll let you know what I end up with.

[Ed_P]

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guest@porteus:~$ wmctrl -m
Name: Mutter (Muffin)
Class: N/A
PID: N/A
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: N/A
guest@porteus:~$ wmctrl -l
0x04400028 -1 porteus.example.net Desktop
0x04800028  0 porteus.example.net Optional
0x03e00049  0 porteus.example.net *wmctrl.sh (~)
0x0420003d  0 porteus.example.net wmctrl user documentation (examples) | spiralofhope — Mozilla Firefox
0x05200006  0 porteus.example.net Terminal
guest@porteus:~$ bash -c "wmctrl -i -r `wmctrl -l | grep - firefox` -t 1"
grep: firefox: No such file or directory
guest@porteus:~$ bash -c "wmctrl -i -r `wmctrl -l | grep - Firefox` -t 1"
grep: Firefox: No such file or directory
guest@porteus:~$ bash -c "wmctrl -i -r `wmctrl -l | grep - Mozilla Firefox` -t 1"
grep: Mozilla: No such file or directory
grep: Firefox: No such file or directory
guest@porteus:~$ 

What I would like to do is make the starting or moving of the Firefox window to be about 150 pixels to the right rather than at 0,0 and be 1770,1080.

[donald]

.....first change location and size values than move:

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wmctrl -r window_title -e 0,150,70,800,600 && wmctrl -r window_title -t workspace_number

-e = window position x,y window size x,y

Example:
PaleMoon launched with the forum index page displayed - relocated,resized and moved to 2nd workspace

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wmctrl -r 'Porteus - Index page - Pale Moon' -e 0,150,70,800,600 && wmctrl -r 'Porteus - Index page - Pale Moon' -t 1

The important point is to use the correct window name.
In a browser the window title changes depending on which web page is displayed.
IMO best to start the browser with a blank page.

https://blog.spiralofhope.com/1042/wmct ... mples.html

[Ed_P]

In a browser the window title changes depending on which web page is displayed.

Interesting. With my new Firefox I don't display the title bar. My default opening page is Porteus so shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

-e = window position x,y window size x,y

x,y plus x,y indicates 4 numbers.

-e 0,150,70,800,600

This shows 5 numbers.

I'll experiment some more.

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The -e option expects a list of comma separated integers: "gravity,X,Y,width,height"

"Gravity" is the 5th number.

These all seem to work.

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guest@porteus:~$ wmctrl -r 'Porteus - Index page — Mozilla Firefox' -e 0,85,0,1860,1100
guest@porteus:~$ wmctrl -r 'Porteus' -e 0,85,0,1860,1100
guest@porteus:~$ wmctrl -r 'Firefox' -e 0,85,0,1860,1100


guest@porteus:~$ wmctrl -l
0x04400028 -1 porteus.example.net Desktop
0x03e00049  0 porteus.example.net wmctrl.sh (~)
0x04800028  0 porteus.example.net Home
0x05200006  0 porteus.example.net Terminal
0x0420003d  0 porteus.example.net Porteus - Index page — Mozilla Firefox
guest@porteus:~$ 

Arguments:
  <WIN>                This argument specifies the window. By default it's
                       interpreted as a string. The string is matched
                       against the window titles and the first matching
                       window is used. The matching isn't case sensitive
                       and the string may appear in any position
                       of the title.

Thank you donald.

The "porteus.example.net" is a bit of a question since it certainly doesn't match the Porteus URL.