It seems that in the RC3 I'm currently running, network manager gui will automatically run with a wired system no problem. It will also see all the access points I also use around me. Not sure if this is rc3 specific or not.
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guest@porteus:~$ uname -a
Linux porteus.example.net 5.12.14-porteus #1 SMP Sat Jul 3 13:15:49 MSK 2021 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5500U CPU @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
HOWEVER, if I use network-manager from the commandline using nmcli commands, wifi works fine. For reference, this was a good one:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NetworkManager
This has to be a major pebcak right? Someone will spot what I'm doing wrong...