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SystemD - 2017?

Post#1 by Evan » 17 Apr 2017, 08:47

Where does everyone currently stand with SystemD ?

I'm somewhat on the fence and keep changing my mind...... :%) :crazy:

Even though systemd seems to be somewhat bloated and sluggish those desktops that are using it also tend be using a fully integrated and themed gtk3+ setup and it's just nicer all round to look at and use on modern screens.

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Re: SystemD - 2017?

Post#2 by francois » 17 Apr 2017, 18:29

https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4384

brokenman wanted to try systemd. He finally opted for openrc. :twisted:
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Re: SystemD - 2017?

Post#3 by Blaze » 17 Apr 2017, 18:57

Evan, can you share output of these commands in SystemD

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free -m
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Re: SystemD - 2017?

Post#4 by beny » 17 Apr 2017, 19:26

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[beny@localhost ~]$ free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7971         514        6973          47         483        7178
Swap:             0           0     


Tasks: 172 total,   2 running, 170 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu0  :   4,7/0,0     5[|||                                                               ]
%Cpu1  :   4,6/0,0     5[|||                                                               ]
%Cpu2  :   7,2/1,3     8[||||||                                                            ]
%Cpu3  :   1,3/0,0     1[|                                                                 ]
%Cpu4  :   2,0/0,0     2[|                                                                 ]
%Cpu5  :   0,0/0,0     0[                                                                  ]
GiB Mem : 10,1/7,785    [                                                                  ]
GiB Swap:  0,0/0,000    [                                                                  ]

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ S COMMAND                         
    1 root      20   0   52,0m   6,6m   0,0  0,1   0:01.36 S systemd                         
  226 root      20   0   67,5m  14,6m   0,0  0,2   0:00.12 S  `- systemd-journal             
  253 root      20   0   44,7m   5,4m   0,0  0,1   0:00.74 S  `- systemd-udevd               
  296 avahi     20   0   47,2m   3,4m   0,0  0,0   0:00.02 S  `- avahi-daemon                
  353 avahi     20   0   47,0m   0,4m   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 S      `- avahi-daemon            
  297 root      20   0   43,9m   4,8m   0,0  0,1   0:00.02 S  `- systemd-logind              
  298 dbus      20   0   39,2m   4,3m   0,0  0,1   0:00.11 S  `- dbus-daemon                 
  412 root      20   0    6,6m   0,3m   0,0  0,0   0:00.01 S  `- dhcpcd                      
  416 root      20   0   92,7m   4,6m   0,0  0,1   0:00.02 S  `- login                       
  432 beny      20   0   21,9m   4,0m   0,0  0,1   0:00.00 S      `- bash                    
  439 beny      20   0   15,6m   2,3m   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 S          `- xinit               
  440 beny      20   0  395,0m  80,0m   1,3  1,0   0:15.92 S              `- Xorg            
  444 beny      20   0   13,4m   3,2m   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 S              `- sh              
  453 beny      20   0  349,7m  18,4m   0,0  0,2   0:00.16 S                  `- xfce4-sess+ 
  468 beny      20   0  549,7m  26,5m   0,0  0,3   0:04.04 S                      `- xfwm4   
  481 beny      20   0  394,3m  33,0m   0,0  0,4   0:00.53 S                      `- xfce4-+ 
  532 beny      20   0  340,3m  24,6m   0,0  0,3   0:00.07 S                          `- pa+ 
  539 beny      20   0  192,0m  16,4m   0,0  0,2   0:00.03 S                          `- pa+ 
  489 beny      20   0  530,6m  39,0m   0,0  0,5   0:00.51 S                      `- xfdesk+ 
  520 beny      20   0  441,6m  42,3m   0,0  0,5   0:00.23 S                      `- polkit+ 
  418 ntp       20   0  100,5m   5,3m   0,0  0,1   0:00.04 S  `- ntpd                        
  426 beny      20   0   59,9m   6,6m   0,0  0,1   0:00.03 S  `- systemd                     
  428 beny      20   0  101,2m   1,6m   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 S      `- (sd-pam)                
  451 beny      20   0   39,2m   4,3m   0,0  0,1   0:00.08 S      `- dbus-daemon             
  464 beny      20   0   58,4m   5,2m   0,0  0,1   0:00.03 S      `- xfconfd                 
  470 beny       9 -11  678,5m  12,6m   0,0  0,2   0:03.03 S      `- pulseaudio              
  477 beny      20   0   80,8m   3,4m   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 S          `- gconf-helper        
  479 beny      20   0   70,6m   5,9m   0,0  0,1   0:00.00 S      `- gconfd-2

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Re: SystemD - 2017?

Post#5 by Blaze » 17 Apr 2017, 19:42

beny, not bad. This system with gnome 3?
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Re: SystemD - 2017?

Post#6 by Tonio » 17 Apr 2017, 19:55

systemd
if you like it use it, if you don't then do not use it.

If you like backdoors + NSA, then use SystemD based Distro.
Else
use a "systemd free" version of linux or a BSD :)

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Post#7 by beny » 17 Apr 2017, 20:15

hi blaze no xfce4 and i have installed but not use it plasma
ps:i use arch on a sd so the environment for backdoor&co is a bit small,but you are right.. for this purpose we are using porteus slackware and current.

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Re: SystemD - 2017?

Post#8 by Tonio » 17 Apr 2017, 21:54

BTW, There is a systemd free distro that has gnome 3.22 and now 3.24. You may check it out, it uses alternate patches that enable one to run gnome without systemd. I'm surprised that slackware folks who like gnome have not seen that it can be done, as an alternative to Dlackware. The distro is voidlinux. Check it out if you like. They use alternate startup scripts called runit.
Also, I do not know if the LPTB (Linux powers that be) have pushed pulseaudio and now most of the linuxes out rhere have it, and now systemd will also rule the world! One init system, like the one world government. Resistance is futile you will be assimilated :(

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Re: SystemD - 2017?

Post#9 by Evan » 18 Apr 2017, 00:00

@Tonio

Thanks for the info on VoidLinux , I'll try it sometime.

@ Blaze.
Blaze wrote:Evan, can you share output of these commands in SystemD
Apart from trying Alien Bobs Gnome desktop yesterday i'm not running SytemD , only Porteus Cinnamon so i can't give an output.

I was just giving my opinion from recently trying out different Distros and wondered how people feel about it now in 2017.

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Post#10 by n0ctilucient » 31 Oct 2017, 21:40

:hmmm: I do NOT have the "right" to tell anyone what they should do...
but I reserve the "right" to tell them what they should consider.

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Post#11 by neko » 01 Nov 2017, 03:16

It is a little difficult to introduce & adjust Systemd into the Porteus framework.
An essential problem is that Systemd is not fit well with live system like Porteus.
It is fit well with installed system.
At shutdown/reboot, it will unmount all mounted file systems even if those are the self running space.
And then, some unmounts resulte in fault.

I have adjusted this issue on APorteus that is constructed with ArchLinux packages and use Systemd.
Please refer to ArchLinux packages manager for Porteus (Post by neko #59631)


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Post#12 by tome » 10 Nov 2017, 19:11

neko wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 03:16
At shutdown/reboot, it will unmount all mounted file systems even if those are the self running space.
And then, some unmounts resulte in fault.
Tomas Matejicek has found workaround, see: http://www.slax.org/en/blog/24229-Clean ... stemd.html

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Post#13 by jssouza » 10 Nov 2017, 20:27

Brilliant huh tome? That's Tomas M :good:

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Post#14 by neko » 12 Nov 2017, 05:21

@tome
Thank you very much for the information on "systemd & live-system".
I will study it.

Thanks.

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