USM Nvidia drivers?

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USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#1 by Evan » 11 Feb 2017, 10:59

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nvidia-driver-367.44-x86_64-1_slonly.txz was found in slackonly [not installed]
nvidia-kernel-367.44_4.4.38-x86_64-1_slonly.txz was found in slackonly [not installed]

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FATAL ERROR!
 resolve_deps 390
Please wait 6 hours for the next database update. Could not find: LIBS.TXT
The kernel installs ok but the driver gives the above error , any idea what the problem is as it's been like that the last couple of days?

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#2 by fulalas » 12 Feb 2017, 09:05

What's your Nvidia card and Porteus architecture (x86 or x64) and kernel version?

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#3 by Evan » 12 Feb 2017, 13:57

Yes I know, this is happened because this
week, I rebuild and update my repo for both arch.

Some packages still missing, as it takes a lot of time
to build all the packages, and some of them have few
problems (missing sources, compile errors, etc).

My repos at this moment is 80% complete, and
now I am in processes to find the problems.

Until the next week some packages expect to
missing for the repo...

Thanks
Just got a reply from Slackonly.

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#4 by Evan » 12 Feb 2017, 13:58

fulalas wrote:What's your Nvidia card and Porteus architecture (x86 or x64) and kernel version?
Hi fulalas

I'm using Cinnamon 64 v3.2.2 with a GTX 750 ti

I had a look at your guide but i'm somewhat confused between your version , Blaze version and Bogomips ./nvidia-installer -zXZ.

With the latest Nvidia 64 Beta driver i booted porteus to text and just ran a standard install

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sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-378.09.run
and then restarted X and i had perfect Nvidia drivers including the new Pipeline command so i know the latest drivers will work with Porteus , Beautiful clear text and no tearing.

New Nvidia Pipeline tear fix option ( You will need a card that will work with the latest drivers )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5oOTvaGUg

I can't remember the link or forum where i read it recently but you have to be careful with stripping down the latest drivers otherwise it breaks the new Pipeline options , so i'd rather convert a full install over to a module if i can as i have 16gb of ram ( so space it not an issue ) until it's known how just far it can be stripped and pipeline still works correctly with V-sync.

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Post#5 by Bogomips » 12 Feb 2017, 19:16

Of course can only go on the 304 experience:
  1. Must save changes straight away the moment NVIDIA run concludes.
  2. Stripping compiler library did not seem to pose any problems.
  3. If blacklist.xzm has been used, ensure that /etc/modprobe.d copied over from blacklist.xzm to fakeroot of module.
Linux porteus 4.4.0-porteus #3 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 23 07:01:55 UTC 2016 i686 AMD Sempron(tm) 140 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2) MemTotal: 901760 kB MemFree: 66752 kB

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#6 by fulalas » 13 Feb 2017, 00:29

@Evan, you can use this driver and it'll work with the pipeline option, but be adviced that this option dramatically decreases performance and it doesn't solve tearing completely, specially outside fullscreen: http://www.mediafire.com/file/dwmzy5tdx ... el-4.9.xzm

I had a 375.xx module ready for kernel 4.9 but I lost it and now I don't use my Nvidia GTX 650Ti anymore, so you have to try to build your own drivers if you want newer versions. Just download the driver (currently 375.26) from Nvidia website and follow the steps on the tutorial I linked you. If you have any problem, we are here to help you :)

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#7 by Evan » 13 Feb 2017, 05:56

fulalas wrote:but be adviced that this option dramatically decreases performance
Only if you are gaming then the forced V-sync can limit the FPS to around 30 to 40 fps but 60fps media still plays at full speed.
fulalas wrote:and it doesn't solve tearing completely, specially outside fullscreen
Funny how we all get different results with Nvidia cards because for me,

nouveau drivers = fuzzy text , screen tearing both with scrolling firefox and playing video and screen shudder when min /maxing backgrounds.

Nvidia Pipeline = clear sharp text , no tearing with any of the above at any screen size.

So solves it completely for me. :)
fulalas wrote:follow the steps on the tutorial I linked you. If you have any problem, we are here to help you :)
Thanks , I think i might need someone to hold my hand until i build my first module. :)

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#8 by Evan » 13 Feb 2017, 05:59

@ Bogomips

./nvidia-installer -zXZ.

Is that used before or after Nvidia.run?

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#9 by Bogomips » 13 Feb 2017, 10:49

^ Instead of. :)
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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#10 by fulalas » 13 Feb 2017, 11:07

Evan wrote:Only if you are gaming then the forced V-sync can limit the FPS to around 30 to 40 fps but 60fps media still plays at full speed.
I'm not talking about refresh rate limiting FPS because of vsync. I'm talking about general performance loss just by enabling 'ForceFullCompositionPipeline' option. You can read about this here and here.
Evan wrote:Funny how we all get different results with Nvidia cards because for me, nouveau drivers = fuzzy text , screen tearing both with scrolling firefox and playing video and screen shudder when min /maxing backgrounds. Nvidia Pipeline = clear sharp text , no tearing with any of the above at any screen size.
Maybe you didn't try 'smooth scroll' of Opera browser :D

Serious, 'ForceFullCompositionPipeline' helps removing some tearing, but it doesn't fix all of it and what's worst: it introduces stutter. Try to watch this video at 1080p@60FPS in full screen with 'stats for nerds' and check how many frames are dropped. With my GTX 650 Ti using 'ForceFullCompositionPipeline' it was terrible :(
Evan wrote:Thanks , I think i might need someone to hold my hand until i build my first module. :)
The first time is very scary, I can understand you, hahaha! But believe me, you'll get it very quickly; you just need to try :)

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#11 by Evan » 13 Feb 2017, 12:20

Bogomips wrote:^ Instead of. :)
LOL , that explains why i was confused , Thanks :)
fulalas wrote:'ForceFullCompositionPipeline'
I've never used ForceFull , I just use the standard ForceComposition which basically just ensures V-sync stays locked.

ForceFull is more aggressive and should only be used as a last resort as it adds extra composition such as extra frame buffering and frame halting to try and ensure V-sync, If you look in Nvidia settings you have an option for Both Force and Force Full.

I'm not going to disable ForceComposition when it 100% stops any glitches and tearing for both my 740 and 750 ti cards. :D
Evan wrote:But believe me, you'll get it very quickly; you just need to try :)
I do tend to spend way to long researching things first.

Thanks :)

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#12 by fulalas » 14 Feb 2017, 03:00

Evan wrote:I've never used ForceFull , I just use the standard ForceComposition which basically just ensures V-sync stays locked.

ForceFull is more aggressive and should only be used as a last resort as it adds extra composition such as extra frame buffering and frame halting to try and ensure V-sync, If you look in Nvidia settings you have an option for Both Force and Force Full.
I see. Thanks for explaining. :)

Did you try to watch this video at 1080p@60FPS in full screen with 'stats for nerds' option turned on and check if there are many frames dropped?

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#13 by Evan » 14 Feb 2017, 07:04

fulalas wrote:
Evan wrote:Did you try to watch this video at 1080p@60FPS in full screen with 'stats for nerds' option turned on and check if there are many frames dropped?
I knew there was something i forgot to mention. :D

If you are using the latest update-firefox with html5 stats and have FPS listed then i have something seriously screwed up here as FPS is not showing.

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#14 by fulalas » 14 Feb 2017, 07:46

Evan wrote:If you are using the latest update-firefox with html5 stats and have FPS listed then i have something seriously screwed up here as FPS is not showing.
You don't need a FPS counter. With 'stats for nerds' option you see 'Dropped Frames' in the bottom of the new dialog: x/y, where x is the current amount of dropped frames, and y is the total frames of the whole video. :good:

Here with the new Intel CPU Pentium G4560 (Kabylake) + Intel HD graphic card I have two scenarios:

1- With Firefox I have no drops at all, but Youtube (HTML5) stutters a lot (probably because of the high CPU usage), so it's far away of being smooth.
2- With Opera, on the other hand, I have countless dropped frames so the experience is also terrible.

Maybe at the moment Youtube can't use GPU assist when running on Intel HD graphics card, so all the work of decoding is done by the CPU itself :unknown:

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Re: USM Nvidia drivers?

Post#15 by Evan » 14 Feb 2017, 10:42

Something isn't right with those Stats because i just watched the Video full screen with Nouveau drivers and it stuttered and rippled yet Stats never reported any drop frames when obviously it was.

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