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[Solved?] ...VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#1 by fullmoonremix » 23 Feb 2016, 20:58

Salutations... :good:

Djv is a ultra lightweight movie player based on FLTK ...
(it's basically... a alternative viewer that avoids Gtk/Qt bloat)
http://djv.sourceforge.net/

IMHO... :oops: this could be a nice addition to the Porteus pantheon of modules... :wink:
(unfortunately it has not yet been posted to http://webwarper.net/ww/~av/slakfinder.org)

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so... if any response to this thread is "do it yourself"... keep in mind this is NOT a request for a tutorial.
A formal message requesting something.
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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#2 by Rava » 17 Apr 2016, 20:55

I have no module, but questioned to have 3.2 Xfce and GStreamer (minus mplayer/audacious), since GStreamer is the Xfce media framework and therefore fits into a slim GUI.
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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#3 by fullmoonremix » 17 Apr 2016, 21:43

Salutations... :good:

The challenge that option presents is Gtk/Qt requires more resources.
In contrast xlib/xcb... tk (tcl) and FLTK/NTK (Mesa/cairo) and Fox Toolkit... require drastically less.

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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#4 by brokenman » 18 Apr 2016, 01:48

I will compile it and play with it. My main concern is the variety of video it can play, and how it handles sound and streaming over a network. Thanks.
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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#5 by Rava » 18 Apr 2016, 02:08

brokenman wrote:I will compile it and play with it. My main concern is the variety of video it can play, and how it handles sound and streaming over a network. Thanks.
When it's about that, what about my suggested alternative, the GStreamer / Xfce variant?
That could be the beginning of a Port variant that can serve as media server or embedded media server even. Sounds good for me, fmoonremix suggestion sounds intriguing on the outer level, but usually his ideas mean a huge load of work, at times a project that was never done like so before (the browser minus and GUI toolkit example, to name one)

He sure can do whatever he wants, but I think others should think about where to put their few free time into. In this case I would suggest the GStreamer / full Xfce course is the better one, because it is done already, and is less work.
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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#6 by ncmprhnsbl » 18 Apr 2016, 02:33

@ brokenman ... no need to compile.. just download the .deb and convert to module (deb2xzm)..
two things i notice :
1. this is a viewer not a player as such > there is no sound
2. is using qt5 not fltk

interesting and useful app for movie production(in concert with other editing/compositing apps) but not a "VLC/Mplayer alternative"
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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#7 by fullmoonremix » 18 Apr 2016, 03:20

Salutations... :good:

Gtk/Qt is a likely dependency (of Cairo) if "fullblown" Cairo (which has Gtk/Qt dependency) is used instead of it's extracted solib.
Perhaps like Netsurf browser there is more than one version/option?

from the FLTK website...
http://www.fltk.org/links.php?V334+Qdjv

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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#8 by ncmprhnsbl » 18 Apr 2016, 03:36

the versions listed there are much older ie. V0.82beta(2009) compared to V1.1(2015)
speaking of depends, think most stuff including qt5 libs is included in the package(not sure because i'm running lxqt at the moment)
its a bit short on dependency info. tho i notice one part looks for some ghostscript libs.EDIT>disregard: this was something else
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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#9 by fullmoonremix » 18 Apr 2016, 04:00

Salutations... :good:

In my many (convoluted?) attempts to reduce Gtk/Qt dependency I envoked the USM
from the command line and I learned the following helps to reduce Gtk/Qt dependency...

...try to avoid Mesa dependent binaries
...use xlib/xcb alternatives
...use alternate toolkit binaries (eg. tk/tcl... FLTK... Fox Toolkit)
...use alternate solibs (usually found in other binaries)

It seems the project might have abandoned the use of FLTK and no one stepped in to maintenance fork it.


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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#10 by ncmprhnsbl » 18 Apr 2016, 04:32

just to be clear: there a no extra deps are needed to run this , qt5 lib and other stuff is included.
to check this i ran it in a non qt5 environment.
it is "portable". tho at 22mb .xzm is not particularly small.
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Re: VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#11 by fullmoonremix » 18 Apr 2016, 10:13

Salutations... :good:

Found it... :Yahoo!: DJV was ported to Qt in 2014 so in fact the unmaintained :wall: "0.8.1" FLTK version exists somewhere...
(see... https://sourceforge.net/p/djv/news/2008 ... ?version=1)

In any case... I don't believe it was mirrored anywhere. I'm almost tempted to entice the dev back
to the "dark side of the force". On the FLTK site he seemed frustrated with the eyecandy.

Perhap's NTK would convince him to come back (although it uses cairo)...
(see... http://non.tuxfamily.org/e-517eedad832f11.95473617.png )

Cairo can be used with FLTK/NTK (instead of Gtk/Qt) if the "-enable_cairo" switch is envoked.
However... since Cairo itself is dependent on Gtk/QT a "solib" drop-in from another non-Gtk/QT binary would be required.

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Re: [Solved] VLC/Mplayer alternative?

Post#12 by fullmoonremix » 19 Apr 2016, 13:36

Salutations... :good:

On a side note... I asked Studioware to post this project.

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