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Re: Suggestions

Post#61 by brokenman » 05 Nov 2015, 23:36

It's difficult to say. It would boot, but beyond that I don't know how your resources would be used. You would probably want to add some more stuff to Nemesis so this part is unpredictable. I should know more once I get a full porteus like system ready. No harm in trying it to see though.
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Re: Suggestions

Post#62 by Rava » 07 Nov 2015, 01:17

Sounds like I should check out N on a spare 2nd machine...
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Re: Suggestions

Post#63 by francois » 07 Nov 2015, 02:27

@rava:
Nemesis should be lean. Personnally, I have the impression that archlinux is more efficient than porteus. Stifiling is of that advice.

@brokenman:
Stability of arch linux: its rolling distro nature.
Maybe manjaro servers should provide more stability than arch linux servers Your the best to judge. Feel free to ask questions on that thread or if you prefer, just hand me your questions. I will get them thru.
https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?top ... ;topicseen

pamac should better than pacaur. It comes a gui frontend and covers AUR based on yaourt. Sorry. :crazy:

Manjaro is the leading arch linux distibution. I am running manjaro on one of my linuxbox. I will use it more. They have a very warmful attitude towards forum members and they aim at simplicity for the user.

In the light of the discussion on porteus future a 32 bit version for roadie would be a great asset.
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Post#64 by Rava » 07 Nov 2015, 09:01

francois wrote:Personnally, I have the impression that archlinux is more efficient than porteus.
Oii... then we have to kick up Porteus in that regard. Maybe we can steal some techniques learn from Arch and/or manjaro.org :D
(I already registered on https://forum.manjaro.org/ dunno when I will actually have time to also post on there, but that may be as it is right now. The needed preparations at least are all done. :) )
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Post#65 by Igor » 08 Nov 2015, 16:04

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Re: Suggestions

Post#66 by Rava » 09 Nov 2015, 06:49

Igor wrote:I am not a fan of Manjaro.
[...]
Please consider the possibility to build Porteus 4.0 repository of Manjaro. That solution can simplify and accelerate the development and maintenance of the distribution, and users to avoid many errors. Manjaro is the same Arch for the lazy. Thank you.
Hmmm confusing info that is. </yoda>
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Post#67 by Igor » 09 Nov 2015, 09:01

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Re: Suggestions

Post#68 by francois » 10 Nov 2015, 00:49

@igor:
Manjaro a different kind of beast is a summary of what manjaro as to offer. It seems in line with the philosophy of porteus and what we would like to provide to our forum members:
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?titl ... d_of_Beast

This means that moving for manjaro servers as fast as possible would save a lot of job to us all.

Meanwhile, we learn. :)

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Re: Suggestions

Post#69 by Rava » 10 Nov 2015, 15:04

^
This then means, Porteus will say goodbye forever to Slackware? :cry:
Manjaro (same as Arch) are not Slackware based, right?
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Post#70 by francois » 10 Nov 2015, 18:13

^
This then means, Porteus will say goodbye forever to Slackware? :cry:
Manjaro (same as Arch) are not Slackware based, right?

Manjaro has their own servers for binaries which are based on arch linux packages. Their release cycle is every one or two weeks. They add binaries that are not available with arch linux. However their package build is the same as archlinux, that is AUR. Whereas arch linux has only a cli interface, pacman as official package manager, manjaro offers a gui interface pamac, which will cover pacman and AUR thru yaourt, and a second gui interface called octopi. Yaourt is a package manager for package build (AUR).
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Re: Suggestions

Post#71 by francois » 11 Nov 2015, 01:27

Is it possible to include:
binutils

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Re: Suggestions

Post#72 by brokenman » 11 Nov 2015, 03:04

Yes. It is in the devel package.
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Re: Suggestions

Post#73 by aus9 » 11 Nov 2015, 04:07

suggestion for some later rebuild, not necessarily the one I know you are working on now

a modest saving can occur here but they all add up
/etc/services list port numbers
and points to a dir /usr/share/iana-etc/port-numbers.iana which contain unpacked files of 3.4M and ~ 40 Kb

cull dir
/usr/share/iana-etc/port-numbers.iana

edit /etc/services for top comment so it reads
# Full data: https://www.iana.org/assignments/servic ... umbers.txt

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Re: Suggestions

Post#74 by aus9 » 11 Nov 2015, 04:21

suggestion for later rebuild

edit /etc/fstab

delete these lines

# Do not edit this file as fstab is recreated automatically during every boot.
# Please use /etc/rc.d/rc.local or sysvinit scripts if you want to mount/unmount
# drive, filesystem or network share.

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Post#75 by brokenman » 11 Nov 2015, 13:38

a modest saving can occur here but they all add up
Thanks. I was in doubt about this one when stripping her down. One question as I am not totally familiar with how iana works. Will this affect a user on a local network with no outside line that uses an app that parses the iana database?

I am getting close to being happy with the base system now. I will probably release something to play with this weekend. I have loaded the 000-kernel.xzm a ton of firmware to support a wide range of devices. It adds some weight to the ISO but will be worth it. I have sorted the shutdown problems. She goes down in about 4 seconds on my machine. One problem that lingers is the locales issue. I will probably upload what I have and let someone with more experience in this area take a look. I am sure the reason is dues to something I have stripped out.
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