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Re: Suggestions

Post#106 by fullmoonremix » 01 Dec 2015, 12:28

Salutations... :good:

Porteus modularity is unique... 8) We can keep showing the rest how it should be done. Forget upstream... let's start a revolution... =@
viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5224&p=39470&hili ... ken#p39470

@ brokenman... as they say "the proof is in the pudding". Take it for a spin... do the "deprecation".
If you like what you see... maybe it's a winner.

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Re: Suggestions

Post#107 by francois » 02 Dec 2015, 11:17

Basic environment:base.xzm and xorg.xzm
I am working from vbox, is this ok for you? This really makes my life simpler.
brokenman wrote: Check out the file /etc/ld.so.conf and see if it contains /usr/lib/mesa
If not then add it and run ldconfig then try to start your desktop again.

Removing all modules above 002 should boot you into an openbox DM with an xterm popup after boot, ready for installin whatever you wish. Future releases will try to accomodate those that want basic apps included and those that want to roll their own. I will include an 'apps' module with the desktop so users can remove it and install their own preferences.
Here is what I did:
Without lxde.xzm
- /usr/lib/mesa was installed in /etc/ld.so.conf
- removed lxde.xzm
- the result is that the booting of the os stops after booting the modules.
live system is ready now -starting porteus.

With lxde.xzm I get the same result.
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Re: Suggestions

Post#108 by brokenman » 02 Dec 2015, 21:50

Can you boot into text mode?
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Re: Suggestions

Post#109 by francois » 11 Dec 2015, 19:32

I was looking for this thread all around.

Yes I can boot in text mode. I get the libwnck missing library error.
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Re: Suggestions

Post#110 by brokenman » 12 Dec 2015, 02:09

pacman -S libwnck
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Re: Suggestions

Post#111 by francois » 12 Dec 2015, 14:33

Installing it made no difference.
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Re: Suggestions

Post#112 by brokenman » 12 Dec 2015, 15:13

So after installing it you still get an error saying it cant find the libwnck.so library?
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Re: Suggestions

Post#113 by francois » 12 Dec 2015, 16:22

Exactly.
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Re: Suggestions

Post#114 by brokenman » 12 Dec 2015, 20:54

It´s difficult for me to know exactly what was and wasn´t installed on your system when installing xfce. All I can say is that I installed xfce4 without any trouble, and made notes along the way. I am setting up my new system tonight, but when I boot back into Porteus I will check out the notes.
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Re: Suggestions

Post#115 by francois » 12 Dec 2015, 22:30

Lets stay with this thread on xfce4. I am doing it the way you proposed at some point in our precedent discussion:
https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5090
/porteus/base minus 003-lxde.xzm
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Re: Suggestions

Post#116 by aus9 » 12 Dec 2015, 22:56

suggestions now that I know we are not Manjaro bound.

Can the LXDE module have obconf installed please.

I know you are searching for the most popular media player but at this early stage can we get rid of jack?
I would also like to see as little gnome stuff in LXDE module as possible especially gnome-control-center and gnome-mplayer

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Re: Suggestions

Post#117 by brokenman » 13 Dec 2015, 13:17

Can the LXDE module have obconf installed please.
Certainly.

at this early stage can we get rid of jack?
Others have requested the inclusion of Jack. I can bump it into 003. I am starting to think I may have to go back on saying I will support both full working versions and stripped versions. Very difficult to get all the desktop agnostic packages into 001/002 and keep it small. Perhaps the layout should be:

001 basic packages to get text mode with network
002 basic packages to get xorg/sound/openbox
003 module of libraries/packages shared between all desktops
004 desktop and extras
005 desktop apps

This way people that wish can remove all but 002 and roll their own.
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Re: Suggestions

Post#118 by fullmoonremix » 13 Dec 2015, 18:23

Salutations... :good:

This is the ""rogue" base abstraction layer loadout (stack?) that I use (based on sawfish)...

001-baremetal (eg. "CLI" embedded? tcc... musl... libmce-perl (perl JIT?)... tinypy... opencl-headers... etc.)
002-interpreter (eg. language/compiler such as tcl... vala... pypy (pythonJIT?) ... luajit... guile... etc.)
003-toolkit (eg. gtk... qt... tk... fox... fltk... I agree with "aus9"... however gtk requires jack so I put it here)
004-interface (eg. "GLI" audio/visual... and networking? such as oss... pulseaudio... wayland... xf86... proto... etc.)
005-environment (eg. sawfish... cairo-composite manager... avant... perlpanel... volwheel... slim... etc.)
006-utilities (eg. spacefm... isomaster... gparted... unetbootin... leafpad... xterminal... qjackctl...etc.)
007-applications
008-workstation (eg. professional applications)
009-fullmoonremix (eg. rootcopy)
012-toolchain (eg. compiler/tools such as distcc... ccache... llvm... dragonegg... etc.)

The dependencies of each stack are included with the binaries. Also I use the "ramod" cheatcode (ramod=00*.*) to load < 010 into memory ONLY.
Modules 005 -012 are NOT built on each other (they are only built on 001 - 004) to facilitate removal without breaking anything.

IMHO... jack is also a requirement for pro audio (audacity... lmms... rosegarden... etc.) and to effectively use oss (oss-->pulseaudio-->qjackctl).

Best Regards... :beer:
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Re: Suggestions

Post#119 by Blaze » 14 Dec 2015, 16:42

brokenman, can you add Adobe Flash Player Auto Updater by Geoffrey
?
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Re: Suggestions

Post#120 by brokenman » 14 Dec 2015, 19:24

I would rather not have anything 'auto update' unless asked to do so by the user. Is there any advantage in this flash updater over just using pacman to update flashplayer?

pacman -S flashplayer
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