Nuts and bolts

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Nuts and bolts

Post#1 by walter90 » 21 Mar 2015, 21:34

Hello all!
I just found out about Porteus and instead of posting countless threads asking all kinds of questions I will only ask this:

Where can I find a good primer on getting started with Porteus?

I should add that the Linux OS I am most used to is Puppy.

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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#2 by Bogomips » 21 Mar 2015, 22:15

Welcome! For starters :)
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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#3 by francois » 22 Mar 2015, 11:52

From what I read puppy linux works with grub legacy. If you want to keep with grub legacy instead of using syslinux, once downloaded, mount porteus iso:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mo ... linux.html
and copy /boot and /porteus to a subfolder (in my example /64bit_v31) on one of your partitions (in my example sda5).

Grub legacy method for a multiboot porteus-windows installation. It uses the grubconfig package:
viewtopic.php?f=62&t=946

The menu.lst entries:

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# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'.  Wed Jul 31 00:39:45 2013
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/sda' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.sda.4431'.  You can restore it like this.
# dd if=mbr.sda.4431 of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
timeout 3

#color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section

title porteus  on sda5 64bit_v31rc1  extramod KDE 
root (hd0,4)
kernel /64bit_v31/boot/syslinux/vmlinuz from=/dev/sda5/64bit_v31 changes=EXIT:/64bit_v31/kde login=
initrd /64bit_v31/boot/syslinux/initrd.xz
boot

title Win Vista/7 (loader) at sda1
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#4 by Bogomips » 22 Mar 2015, 15:48

ISO You can either go the wizard way, or if you can cut it, just download a ready made iso for the desktop of your choice.

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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#5 by walter90 » 23 Mar 2015, 00:58

Thanks for the replies. I understand Porteus can be booted from a CD. Does it act as a live CD like Puppy where I can create a save file on a storage device?

I'm not sure I want to do a full install until I know whether Porteus is what I'm looking for.

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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#6 by francois » 23 Mar 2015, 01:07

From faq on cheatcodes:
http://www.porteus.org/tutorials/26-gen ... -them.html
Reboot your computer and wait several seconds until the graphical Porteus logo appears with a boot menu. Choose your desired menu entry and hit Tab, which will allow you to edit the command line. Add your desired boot argument from the list below to affect booting the way you like. Here's an example of what the boot line would look like, adding the noauto and copy2ram cheatcodes to a standard Porteus boot option (which already has some other cheatcodes by default)...

add changes= cheatcode, same logic as in the menu.lst mentioned above after the append argument:

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changes=/mnt/sdax/path-to/"changes-folder-name"

on your hdd media as

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Graphics mode
KERNEL vmlinuz
APPEND initrd=initrd.xz changes=/porteus
will not be able to write on the cd.
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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#7 by Bogomips » 23 Mar 2015, 12:44

walter90 wrote:I'm not sure I want to do a full install until I know whether Porteus is what I'm looking for.
That's the nice thing about Porteus IMHO, that you don't have to do a full install. :) In fact, as I understand it, working without a full install in the traditional sense, is de rigueur. 8) (francois, pardon my French)
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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#8 by francois » 23 Mar 2015, 18:38

Votre français est impeccable bogomips!
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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#9 by brokenman » 24 Mar 2015, 00:12

Indeed. There is no 'real install' of Porteus so to speak. You can test it out from a USB drive and if you like it just continue booting from that USB drive. If you REALLY like it you can put the contents from the USB drive onto your hard drive and then point your bootloader at it. If you want a 'real install' (Va savoir pourquoi!) you should install slackware.

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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#10 by francois » 24 Mar 2015, 11:22

Suddenly there is a French invasion on the porteus forum. :twisted:
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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#11 by walter90 » 25 Mar 2015, 01:04

Thank you everyone!
I appreciate your advice and technical expertise. One thing is unclear though.

Can I boot from a live CD if I download the .iso and burn it to a bootable disk?

To be honest, that's one of my favorite Puppy features.

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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#12 by francois » 25 Mar 2015, 01:31

This is the standard procedure. Once you boot your cd you can install directly from the cd what we call the frugal mode on hdd, porteus will be in compressed mode ready to boot. However, you will install porteus with the syslinux bootloader :
panel menu > system > porteus installer

If you prefer to stay with manually changing the menu.lst of your grub legacy installation copying directly the boot and porteus folders of your porteus cd installation on the appropriate partition of you hdd. Which really is maybe as fast as the porteus installer.

In case you are not sure, do not hesitate to ask for additional instrutions. :)

In this latter case, you could give us the fdisk -l output of your system and tell us where exactly you want porteus to be installed. For sure as porteus is linux, it will be more happy on a linux filesystem. However, you could also install porteus on ntfs if this is your wish. To have persistence, you will have to build a .dat container.
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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#13 by walter90 » 31 Mar 2015, 15:15

All this sounds as complicated as an automatic transmission, Lol

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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#14 by Ed_P » 01 Apr 2015, 03:16

walter90 wrote:Can I boot from a live CD if I download the .iso and burn it to a bootable disk?
You can download the .iso and boot it from a USB flash drive if you use an app named Easy2Boot.
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Re: Nuts and bolts

Post#15 by brokenman » 01 Apr 2015, 10:53

Can I boot from a live CD if I download the .iso and burn it to a bootable disk?
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