Printing Experience

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Printing Experience

Post#1 by hitsware » 24 Dec 2014, 10:53

Printer is HP4360
Printer has worked very well with XP for years.
When system was switched to LXDE, the printer
was recognized and self setup. It worked fine with
the exception of slight bluishness to print at the
bottom of page.
(and printing way slower than with XP)
Switched to XFCE and printing degraded over a few
days to the point of non-usable. Blue and red stripping
of black and white print. HP utility did point to low
color ink level, but was not using colors.
Went back to LXDE and problem the same.
Hooked printer up to XP machine and it worked fine.
Put in new ink cartridges and it works fine with XFCE.
Go figure..........
It seems like the low ink may throw the Linux into
some kind of attempt at compensation that it cannot
do well or shouldn't try to begin with ?
My wife is disapointed and I think the experience
caused me to waste considerable ink.

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#2 by wread » 24 Dec 2014, 12:36

@hitsware: seems to be an upstream problem. I myself have experienced some color degradation with linux, too. The HP people could solve this issue; maybe they need our feedback to help them with it. Maybe francois or Ahau have any clues to it.

Most printers in linux depend on Python to make them work. I don't know how XP drives the printers, but I think they do it without Python. The problem is the documentation of the different printers; that's why MS needs different drivers for the printers. I have read in Google, they (the printer makers) are trying to bring them all to a common denominator, namely pdf. That would be a good thing for us linuxers...

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#3 by beny » 24 Dec 2014, 13:49

slackware and also porteus of course have the hp tool software so after you have converted it in porteus package you can use it and don't run as root,only guest maybe you solve your issue with:

hplip: hplip (HP print/scan/fax support)
hplip:
hplip: HPLIP is an HP developed solution for printing, scanning, and faxing
hplip: with HP inkjet and laser based printers in Linux. The HPLIP project
hplip: provides printing support for more than 1400 HP printer models,
hplip: including Deskjet, Officejet, Photosmart, PSC (Print Scan Copy),
hplip: Business Inkjet, LaserJet, and LaserJet MFP.
hplip:
hplip: For more information, see: http://hplipopensource.com
hplip:
hplip:

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#4 by hitsware » 24 Dec 2014, 15:52

> don't run as root,only guest maybe you solve your issue

I have the HPLIP ........ But I am booting as root ...
You are saying to boot as guest and that will make
a differance ???? Can you elaborate ?
Thank You :)

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#5 by francois » 24 Dec 2014, 23:13

Beny will surely explain why printing under root is not a good idea.

I always do work root mode, including printing. :twisted:
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Seeing Red !

Post#6 by hitsware » 16 Feb 2015, 17:09

Worked fine for ~ 2 months.
Now again printing in red :evil:
Is there another version of the xzm that may work better ?

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#7 by francois » 17 Feb 2015, 18:33

@hitsware:

Please provide the complete name and description of you hp printer: deskjet, inkjet, .... .
Ok. A recent printer the deskjet d4360:
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/su ... skjet.html
We need hplip version 2.8.6
In addition, they comment saying that only partial support is given under linux. Hp supports linux, but sometime they do not provide hp supported printers. :(

With printers, laptop and desktop computers, compatibility as always to be checked before buying or after trying. :(

Maybe you can install your windows os inside linux with virtual box and provide the possibility to share your files betwee the Virtual os and linux. But this seems to be a lot of work.

Sorry.
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Re: Printing Experience

Post#8 by hitsware » 19 Feb 2015, 18:52

Francios,

Gracias :)

Does XFCE meet the requirements below ?

http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/sy ... ments.html

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#9 by francois » 19 Feb 2015, 21:57

With usm you can download hplip version 3.13.10.

For our printing.xzm package, I cannot say the hp printer coverage, but as yours is not in there, I would download hplip.

All porteus desktop environments are:

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root@porteus:~# uname -r
3.17.4-porteus
root@porteus:~# 
Please, download hplip with usm gui, and report about it for your printer.

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#10 by hitsware » 19 Feb 2015, 23:42

usm reports hplip 3.13.10 installed

downloaded hplip 3.13.10
downloaded pil 1.1.7 and pyqt 4.9.6 ..... (reported dependencies)

converted all 3 to xzm and put in modules folder
removed printing.xzm from base folder

now printer does not work at all

with printer.xzm the printer works but without using black ink cartridge
the CUPS online thing opens and reports the printer OK, but ??????

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#11 by francois » 19 Feb 2015, 23:51

Keep printing.xzm with hplip.

Please report anew.
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Re: Printing Experience

Post#12 by hitsware » 20 Feb 2015, 00:24

OK

hplip 3.13.10 .xzm pil 1.1.7 .xzm and pyqt 4.9.6 .xzm in modules folder

printing .xzm in base folder

same as without anything in modules
I think 3.13.10 is embedded in printing ?

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#13 by francois » 20 Feb 2015, 02:00

There is a problem with hplip:

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root@porteus:/mnt/sda6# hp-toolbox
warning: hp-toolbox should not be run as root/superuser.

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.13.10)
HP Device Manager ver. 15.0

Copyright (c) 2001-13 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

warning: Reportlab not installed. Fax coverpages disabled.
warning: Please install version 2.0+ of Reportlab for coverpage support.
warning:  distro is not found in AUTH_TYPES
\error: dBus initialization error. Exiting.
root@porteus:/mnt/sda6#
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Re: Printing Experience

Post#14 by hitsware » 20 Feb 2015, 02:36

" distro is not found in AUTH_TYPES "

Can you get Porteus on the CUPS list of supported distros ?

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Re: Printing Experience

Post#15 by hitsware » 20 Feb 2015, 14:32

hp-check -t
Saving output in log file: /home/guest/hp-check.log

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.13.10)
Dependency/Version Check Utility ver. 15.1

Copyright (c) 2001-13 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

Note: hp-check can be run in three modes:
1. Compile-time check mode (-c or --compile): Use this mode before compiling the
HPLIP supplied tarball (.tar.gz or .run) to determine if the proper dependencies
are installed to successfully compile HPLIP.
2. Run-time check mode (-r or --run): Use this mode to determine if a distro
supplied package (.deb, .rpm, etc) or an already built HPLIP supplied tarball
has the proper dependencies installed to successfully run.
3. Both compile- and run-time check mode (-b or --both) (Default): This mode
will check both of the above cases (both compile- and run-time dependencies).

Check types:
a. EXTERNALDEP - External Dependencies
b. GENERALDEP - General Dependencies (required both at compile and run time)
c. COMPILEDEP - Compile time Dependencies
d. [All are run-time checks]
PYEXT SCANCONF QUEUES PERMISSION

Status Types:
OK
MISSING - Missing Dependency or Permission or Plug-in
INCOMPAT - Incompatible dependency-version or Plugin-version

warning: distro is not found in AUTH_TYPES
warning: unknown-0.0 version is not supported. Using unknown-0 versions dependencies to verify and install...

---------------
| SYSTEM INFO |
---------------

Kernel: 3.17.4-porteus #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 12 16:04:56 Local time zone must be set-- GNU/Linux
Host: porteus
Proc: 3.17.4-porteus #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 12 16:04:56 Local time zone must be set-- GNU/Linux
Distribution: unknown 0.0
Bitness: 32 bit


-----------------------
| HPLIP CONFIGURATION |
-----------------------

HPLIP-Version: HPLIP 3.13.10
HPLIP-Home: /usr/share/hplip
warning: HPLIP-Installation: Auto installation is not supported for unknown distro 0.0 version

Current contents of '/etc/hp/hplip.conf' file:
# hplip.conf. Generated from hplip.conf.in by configure.

[hplip]
version=3.13.10

[dirs]
home=/usr/share/hplip
run=/var/run
ppd=/usr/share/cups/model/HP
ppdbase=/usr/share/cups/model
doc=/usr/doc/hplip-3.13.10
html=/usr/share/doc/hplip-3.13.10
icon=/usr/share/applications
cupsbackend=/usr/lib/cups/backend
cupsfilter=/usr/lib/cups/filter
drv=/usr/share/cups/drv/hp
bin=/usr/bin

# Following values are determined at configure time and cannot be changed.
[configure]
network-build=yes
libusb01-build=no
pp-build=no
gui-build=yes
scanner-build=yes
fax-build=yes
dbus-build=yes
cups11-build=no
doc-build=yes
shadow-build=yes
hpijs-install=yes
foomatic-drv-install=yes
foomatic-ppd-install=no
foomatic-rip-hplip-install=yes
hpcups-install=yes
cups-drv-install=yes
cups-ppd-install=yes
internal-tag=3.13.10
restricted-build=no
ui-toolkit=qt4
qt3=no
qt4=yes
policy-kit=yes
lite-build=no
udev-acl-rules=no
udev_sysfs_rules=no
hpcups-only-build=no
hpijs-only-build=no


Current contents of '/var/lib/hp/hplip.state' file:
Plugins are not installed. Could not access file: No such file or directory

Current contents of '~/.hplip/hplip.conf' file:
[installation]
date_time = 02/20/2015 03:59:35
version = 3.13.10


<Package-name> <Package-Desc> <Required/Optional> <Min-Version> <Installed-Version> <Status> <Comment>

--------------------------
| External Dependencies |
--------------------------

policykit Admin-Policy-framework OPTIONAL - 0.105 OK -
gs Ghostscript REQUIRED 7.05 9.07 OK -
network Network-wget OPTIONAL - 1.14 OK -
scanimage Shell-Scanning OPTIONAL 1.0 1.0.24 OK -
avahi-utils avahi-utils OPTIONAL - 0.6.31 OK -
error: dbus DBus REQUIRED - 1.6.12 MISSING 'DBUS may not be installed or not running'
cups CUPS REQUIRED 1.1 1.5.4 OK 'CUPS Scheduler is running'
xsane SANE-GUI OPTIONAL 0.9 0.998 OK -

-------------------------
| General Dependencies |
-------------------------

error: reportlab Python-PDF-Lib OPTIONAL 2.0 - MISSING 'reportlab needs to be installed'
error: libcrypto OpenSSL-Crypto-Lib REQUIRED - 1.0.1 MISSING 'libcrypto needs to be installed'
pil Python-Image-Lib OPTIONAL - 1.1.7 OK -
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/hp-check", line 897, in <module>
num_errors, num_warns = core.validate(time_flag, is_quiet_mode)
File "/usr/bin/hp-check", line 396, in validate
installed_ver = self.version_func[self.hplip_dependencies[d][5]]()
File "/usr/share/hplip/installer/dcheck.py", line 300, in get_pyQt4_version
from PyQt4 import QtCore
ImportError: libQtCore.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
guest@porteus:~$ hp-check -t

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