Wishlist for porteus 3.1

New features which should be implemented in Porteus; suggestions are welcome. All questions or problems with testing releases (alpha, beta, or rc) should go in their relevant thread here, rather than the Bug Reports section.
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#136 by Rava » 31 Aug 2015, 18:31

brokenman wrote:2 minute response time for my email from Panagiotis. Nice.
I've synced the 64bit repository, but the 32 bit repo is missing a ChangeLog.txt which is vital for USM to know when something was changed.
92% of my Porteus needs (as in: 64 bit Port!) solved in 2 minutes. Neat indeed.

And hopefully Panagiotis will implement a ChangeLog.txt for 32 bit as well. *knocks on wood* :D
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#137 by brokenman » 05 Sep 2015, 04:29

https://github.com/brokenman/usm

Added slackonly repository. Those familiar with git can pull it now and test 64bit repository. It will be available to update through USM this weekend.
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#138 by blue4meridian » 05 Sep 2015, 12:42

Salutations... :good:

And slackpack?
http://webwarper.net/ww/~av/sotirov-bg. ... cgi?q=site

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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#139 by brokenman » 05 Sep 2015, 20:13

Can you point me to a slackware compatible repository for it?

It should have a ChangeLog.txt, PACKAGES.TXT, MD5SUM.TXT and all the rest.
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#140 by blue4meridian » 06 Sep 2015, 01:06

Salutations... :good:

You might need to reach out... :unknown:

"Packaged by Georgi D. Sotirov <gdsotirov@dir.bg>"

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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#141 by Rava » 06 Sep 2015, 21:00

I looked into the directory of "Packages for Slackware 14.1", looking for ChangeLog.txt, PACKAGES.TXT, MD5SUM.TXT and all the rest and not even found the first one, ChangeLog.txt :(

Sure, the files still might be there since it is a html page, created by search.cgi, and that cgi script might omit some files, like all needed ones...

If you want it to be included, please mail and ask the maintainer via the @ you gave above, blue4meridian. :)
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#142 by blue4meridian » 15 Sep 2015, 08:24

Salutations... :good:

If the maintainers find merit in a repo.. it is logical that THEY should reach out to improve their project. :unknown:

If an end user reaches out to a repo it will be seen as begging for favors... which will likely be ignored. :wall:
However... if a maintainer reaches out to another project (repo?) it is asking for support which will likely be accommodated.

I made the case for Slackpack because like Slackonly (and sometimes even better) they make many packages that others fail to.
So if the maintainers like (consider?) what they are doing on pkgs.org then they need to reach out.

In any case... the suggestion is moot because I have abandoned Slackware for Arch Linux. :no:
http://webwarper.net/ww/~av/forum.porte ... 114&t=2386
So my new "wish" is for everyone else to do the same... if they are serious about repos.

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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#143 by brokenman » 16 Sep 2015, 13:14

If the maintainers find merit in a repo.. it is logical that THEY should reach out to improve their project.
I am incredibly busy so I ask for all the help I can get. It is quite easy for you to simply say "You should add this repo". Quite the opposite for me to do it.

Thanks very much Rava for looking into it for me.
If an end user reaches out to a repo it will be seen as begging for favors... which will likely be ignored.
Quite the opposite. This is looked at as 'Doing the leg work' and not begging. Case in point ... slackonly. Porteus users asked for it, did the leg work and it is now included.
So if the maintainers like (consider?) what they are doing on pkgs.org then they need to reach out.
USM is slackware based. There is no point having packages available that will not automatically resolve dependencies. It just leads to complaints and more work.
In any case... the suggestion is moot because I have abandoned Slackware for Arch Linux.
Yet you still made it. Good luck with Arch.
So my new "wish" is for everyone else to do the same... if they are serious about repos.
Good luck with that too. I have an arch based version of Porteus sitting here on my computer. The problem is the hours and hours and hours of work I need to put in to make it function.
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#144 by blue4meridian » 16 Sep 2015, 17:16

Salutations... :good:

In context... begging the repo NOT maintainer. So there is no leg work because...
there will be no response because the end user has no credibility or authority.

IMHO... I prefer consideration to suggestion or request. Lets say I mention something to consider.
Then (when "possible"... if meritorious and/or beneficial to the entire project/distro) either it's considered or not.
In regard to Arch I fully agree. It is no fun @ all. It has taken me months to fully sort out all it's levels of dependency hell. :evil:
Many of it's levels lead to circular dependencies. Then to make things worse I attempted to shoehorn it into the wrong userland. :wall:

That was like trying to put a square peg into a triangular hole. However... it's either that or resource starvation. I'm trying to do supercomputing.
Race condition

I own a Jetson (nVidia/ARM eg. CUDA) and I'm building a 1u x86/ARM cluster so my plate is full. So Arch (unfortunately?) is the route of least resistance.

When I am finished with my remix of Sensei (I've been working on Porteus 1yr) I will post it.
Based on size it will be bloated (1.5gb?)... based on performance it will be fast.

In Pro Recording you need lots of fire power (to fight latency) so that is my motivation for this project.
I'm a professional recording engineer (30 yrs) so I thought why should Apple users have all the fun (eg. ProTools)?

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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#145 by brokenman » 17 Sep 2015, 01:08

In context... begging the repo NOT maintainer. So there is no leg work because... there will be no response because the end user has no credibility or authority.
Ok, yes I understand now. The leg work I refer to doesn't involve any begging. Just go out and find the repo that has the minimum requirements to be slackware compatible.
So Arch (unfortunately?) is the route of least resistance.
You might also checkout gentoo if you are wanting to fully customize for your hardware. You have to compile everything which can take days to setup. The process is a little long, but quite painless and the available packages are plentiful.
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#146 by Rava » 21 Sep 2015, 23:37

brokenman wrote:You might also checkout gentoo if you are wanting to fully customize for your hardware. You have to compile everything which can take days to setup. The process is a little long, but quite painless and the available packages are plentiful.
Does that mean.... that when I try out a gentoo live Linux (I presume there is one) I might find out that my issues with my 8core notebook and the sound - over - hdmi issue - no longer working with never Porteus at all - might be resolved with gentoo, and I "only" would have to find out which sound / alsa / hdmi driver I need to compile and add for my Porteus on that machine?

Which, of course, could be the solution to other's hdmi sound issues as well....
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#147 by brokenman » 22 Sep 2015, 04:31

If your problem is a kernel module then this won't help. Perhaps if you can send the technical details I can take a look in my free time. I also have an 8 core notebook with HDMI and analog on the same card. I know you posted the details of aplay somewhere else. If you can find it and point me to it I will revise it again and try to help.
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Re: Wishlist for porteus 3.1

Post#148 by Rava » 22 Sep 2015, 22:30

^

I think I best try to make it run again by firing up my 8core notebook. As you might also have encountered, at times software behaves strange, either in a bug that is not to be hunted down kind of way, or also as in a bug just vanished by itself kind of wonder...

Therefore, I not look up the old data but evaluate it anew.

Maybe I run a fresh Port 3.1 without any of my customizations (aside from it having my NVidia video driver installed, of course) and also by running one 3.1 version with my current settings as root and as user rava... and look if one of them behaves like it should. Or maybe then I see that both misbehave.

Then I send you an PM (or do you prefer Email?) with my results and what I tried to find out by myself so far.


And when by some wonder it now works out of the box, I will post that here.


You OK with that approach?
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