Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manager)

Porteus based on Arch with pacman package manager.
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#46 by francois » 09 Dec 2013, 11:06

Thanks for this new version. Though were already heading for porteus 3.0 before Christmas. :(
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Post#47 by stifiling » 21 Dec 2013, 06:03

I may redo this along with the 64-bit one when 3.0 drops.

As of now though i added to the first post the devel.xzm with yaourt included for compiling from the AUR as well as the kernelsrc.xzm.

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#48 by francois » 12 Jan 2014, 02:41

What is the difference between 2.1 and 2.1 v2?

I am currently using 2.1 only and installed a few packages including cus 1.7.0 and system-config-printer and libreoffice. Did you get cups running and printing^
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Post#49 by stifiling » 13 Jan 2014, 02:29

2.1 v2 and 2.1 are both really the same, but just sorted different. I was going for shrinking the iso size, as most users who would come across this probably aren't interested in the extraapps (geany, thunar, firefox, etc.). All that's on the iso is xfce, pacman package manager, and frisbee network manager. the goal is to give the users the bare minimum, and let them use pacman to pick and install their own favorite apps. You can make your own xzm modules too. You can install the script makexzm (originally makesfs from archpup) using pacman and then:

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makexzm leafpad xterm pcmanfm chromium
or whatever combination u'd like to use, and create your own .xzm modules.

the 2.1v2 layout should also (i'm hoping) make updating easier when 3.0 final is released.

I would've assumed getting printing working would've been pretty straight forward, or relatively easy...but obviously that's not the case. I haven't used a printer in years and presently don't have one to try it out on. If you decide to peck around with it and happen to get it working...the solution would be much appreciated.

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Post#50 by rgb-one » 19 Jan 2014, 07:35

Hey, how do i disable auto-login? i get an error saying permission denied after installing a few apps, logging out and logging back in. the apps I have taken a different approach and have been creating xcz's for the various apps (jdk, i3).

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Post#51 by stifiling » 20 Jan 2014, 04:37

rgb-one wrote:Hey, how do i disable auto-login?
to disable auto-login you have to change lines 52 & 69 of the file /etc/inittab, back to the way it is in original porteus. this is how original porteus has it:

52 c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty --noclear 38400 tty1 linux
69 x1:4:respawn:/etc/rc.d/rc.4
rgb-one wrote:i get an error saying permission denied after installing a few apps, logging out and logging back in. the apps I have taken a different approach and have been creating xcz's for the various apps (jdk, i3).
after installing a few apps, with pacman, u're getting a permission denied error all of a sudden, when trying to install more apps w/pacman? and/or u're getting a permission denied error after logging out and logging back in, after installing a couple of apps? rather it's one or the other, or both...they're both pretty bizarre.....the system runs as root. could you be more descriptive of 'exactly' what happens, and when...

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#52 by rgb-one » 21 Jan 2014, 05:42

To try to add some clarity, after installing applications, namely jdk, i3 window manager, spacefm and a few others, after logging out and logging back in. porteus tries to auto login and while doing that it returns permission denied. so basically after installing a few apps and logging out i can't log back in.


Also i have identified a few applications in conflict with pacman. ie they were installed with porteus:

vi
zless
zmore
zgrep
zforce
zfgrep
zegrep
gunzip
gzip

and a few others i think

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Post#53 by stifiling » 21 Jan 2014, 06:37

thanks for listing those file conflicts...i'll get them corrected.
i'm also going to see about disabling the way i have the auto-login in 001-core.xzm and moving it to the 003.xzms

are you able to get the i3 window manager working w/o logging out?

from the tty prompt does:

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startx
start i3? or does it say permission denied even if you didn't log out?

did you create a ~/.xinitrc file with the line:

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exec i3
in it?

just wondering if this is the missing piece...

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Post#54 by tome » 21 Jan 2014, 15:16

@stifiling
You could add in the future network manager to this Porteus derivative - sometimes USB modems are the only way to connect with Internet and download Arch packages.

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#55 by stifiling » 21 Jan 2014, 19:13

tome wrote:@stifiling
You could add in the future network manager to this Porteus derivative - sometimes USB modems are the only way to connect with Internet and download Arch packages.
you are right about connecting via modem. networkmanager though, will increase the iso size a noticeable amount. wvdial should work for connecting via dial-up modem and is a lot smaller. i'll put wvdial in the 04-baseapps.xzm and if the users prefer networkmanager...of course they can install it instead...

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Post#56 by rgb-one » 22 Jan 2014, 06:32

Yes it all works well before logout. What i did was modify the .xinitrc that was there, removing exec startxfce4 with exec i3. The jdk could be causing the problem, however i dont know how.

Also for mounting sd cards you can include the package udiskie.

I haven't used Arch-Porteus for a few days, however, at the moment i am trying to find something portable i can do some development on. I have quite a hefty laptop dependent on the socket to stay on, so i have been looking for something to put on usb. I have been through a few pup's, they are ok but they don't satisfy all the requirements. AlphaOS as well as Arch-Porteus as well as maybe slacko are the only real options left.

i have made a .xzm of jdk so i will get back to you if i start using it again.

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#57 by stifiling » 22 Jan 2014, 07:34

when u say jdk u're referring to the package "jdk7-openjdk"? i tested earlier with i3 only and it worked fine. like you say, it may be jdk..but then again, it could also be an issue with the makexzm script. I'll test it out and see what happens.

if you like i3 window manager...you wouldn't want to load the system without 003-xfce.xzm....and make a 003-i3.xzm? that's the outlook i had for using the system. using only the xzm modules 000-kernel 001-core and 002-xorg and then makexzming i3...

i disabled auto-login in the 001-core but it's still in 003-xfce, so if you're going to make and i3 xzm w/003-xfce loaded it's still going to auto-login. I'll be uploading this iso shortly. like i said before though, it's probably better to make an i3.xzm w/o 003-xfce.xzm. but then again, u can be as creative and unique as ya like lol.

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Post#58 by rgb-one » 23 Jan 2014, 01:51

I did make an i3.xzm however I didnt remove the 003-xfce.xzm, i used them alongside each other. I did try creating an xzm with everything I would use (i3, spacefm dmenu and various other apps) but the permission error hit and i havent really tried anything since.

Also, the JDK version being used is release by Oracle, and is retrieved from the AUR.

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Post#59 by stifiling » 24 Jan 2014, 00:07

well when/if you decide to try it again..we can continiue to troubleshoot it until the fix is found.

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#60 by francois » 16 Mar 2014, 13:43

Hello there stifiling. :)

Do you expect to move to porteus 3.0 as the basis for your porteus/arch installation? I am sure a few of us would be eager to test it. :twisted:

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