Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manager)

Porteus based on Arch with pacman package manager.
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#271 by Rava » 01 Oct 2015, 19:19

stifiling wrote:Rava,
Keep your head up man. that's gotta be a tough place at this time. i lost mom myself last year.
:good: :friends:

Anyhow, the recent x86-64 you uploaded, is that a pure 64 bit version without any 32 bit libraries and stuff, the way I try to keep my XFCe Porteus 3.x?
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#272 by ncmprhnsbl » 01 Oct 2015, 22:14

brokenman said of his version:
It should be noted that this is NOT porteus, It is arch linux and only uses the linuxrc script (initial initrd script) from porteus. After this initrd it hands of to systemd
...whereas sensei uses the porteus intrd, kernel and init, and systemd is only a udev provider.

managed to get an xorg and basic X setup working without problems..
makexzm is working, and de/activate..

Code: Select all

oot@sensei:~# free -h
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           7.8G        125M        7.3G        7.5M        352M        7.3G
Swap:          9.8G          0B        9.8G
root@sensei:~# pstree
init-+-acpid
     |-5*[agetty]
     |-beaver
     |-dbus-daemon
     |-dhcpcd
     |-klogd
     |-login---bash---startx---xinit-+-Xorg
     |                               `-jwm-+-alsaplayer-+-4*[{alsaplayer}]
     |                                     |            `-{gmain}
     |                                     |-lxterminal-+-bash---pstree
     |                                     |            |-gnome-pty-helpe
     |                                     |            `-{gmain}
     |                                     `-spacefm---{gmain}
     |-ntfs-3g
     |-syslogd
     `-udevd
i'll do some tweaking and share my xorg
Rava wrote:Anyhow, the recent x86-64 you uploaded, is that a pure 64 bit version without any 32 bit libraries and stuff, the way I try to keep my XFCe Porteus 3.x?
i think the multilib repo is enabled but i dont think theres anything installed...
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#273 by brokenman » 02 Oct 2015, 00:38

I should start another thread for my version which I hope stiffling, neko and others will all join into developing. It has a pman package manager which is a wrapper for pacman that automatically converts packages to modules. Any ideas on a good name for it?
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#274 by Ed_P » 02 Oct 2015, 01:52

brokenman wrote:Any ideas on a good name for it?
BrokenArch

ArchPort

Archeus

PortArcheus

BrokenSense


:)
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Post#275 by brokenman » 02 Oct 2015, 03:34

heh. BrokenArch. Is that a dig?
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#276 by Ed_P » 02 Oct 2015, 03:57

brokenman wrote:heh. BrokenArch. Is that a dig?
Not at all.

Brokenman + Arch Linux = 1st part of Brokenman + 1st part of Arch Linux = BrokenArch :good:
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#277 by francois » 02 Oct 2015, 05:05

AMI Archlinux Module Installer
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#278 by stifiling » 02 Oct 2015, 05:11

first name comes to mind for me is..."Nemesis"

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#279 by neko » 02 Oct 2015, 13:09

@stifiling

My how to convert "64bit ISO" to "32bit ISO".

1.Sensei-v3.1-i486.iso@/boot/syslinux/initrd.xz,vmlinuz
Sensei-v3.1-i486.iso@/porteus/base/000-kernel.xzm
are gotten from upkernel command.
And the "/lib and /sbin" directories of 000-kernel.xzm were changed on ArchLinux format.

"upkernel" command is included in upkernel-3.18.21-noarch-3.xzm.
viewtopic.php?f=75&t=4788#p34856
Also This article explains how to build kernel.

2.Sensei-v3.1-i486.iso@/porteus/base/001-core.xzm
are constructed from the packages that were gotten by archpkgs using 64bit's list.
The 64bit's list was gotten from
"Sensei-v3.1-x86_64.iso@/porteus/base/001-core64.xzm@/var/lib/pacman/local/".
And contents of some packages were reduced as same as 64bit.

There are all package informations in
Sensei-v3.1-i486.iso@/porteus/base/001-core.xzm@/var/log/packages/

"archpkgs" is included in archspm-15.09.27-noarch-2.xzm.
viewtopic.php?f=75&t=4997#p36687

3.Sensei-v3.1-i486.iso@/porteus/base/001-core_sensei-v3.1.xzm
were copied from 64bit except ArchLinux packages.
And binary entities were replaced by ones of "Porteus v3.1 32bit".

On this operation, "/var/lib/pacman/local/" were not copied.

There are all package informations in
"Sensei-v3.1-i486.iso@/porteus/base/001-core_sensei-v3.1.xzm@/var/log/packages/".


Thanks.

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#280 by francois » 02 Oct 2015, 16:02

@stifiling:

Nemesis is a great name for a new OS. It has a lot of meaning, including the one that you meant to give. Which was?

synonyms and analogs:
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/nemesis

Personally, I like nemesis in terms of destiny, fortune, predestination ...

wikipedia english:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(mythology)

Great name.
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#281 by stifiling » 02 Oct 2015, 16:58

yea i like that name. think it sounds slick, cool, dark, and holds a powerful meaning.

only issue w/"BrokenArch" is it sounds like one of those systems where it's developed broken by design, and we know it's broken, and we're testing it as broken. similar to like ReactOS...or as if maybe we're using the GNU Hurd kernel or something.

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#282 by francois » 02 Oct 2015, 17:03

I think that brokenman was serious when replying to Ed's suggestion. brokenman as an alias is great, and even brokenman and stifiling have given birth to nemesis looks good. But broken OS :ROFL:

This with all my respect to you Jay. :wink:

But more seriously Nemesis, this arch linux clone, could be an interesting way to get familiar with systemd and to see how modularity could improve the performance and accessibility of a distribution with a great variety of packages an pkgbuild.
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#283 by Rava » 03 Oct 2015, 23:51

You all know that most free software pals like irony and such.

So, choosing "Broken OS" for an OS known for its stability and non-broken-ness would be quite in-universe with that irony themed naming, like "Lame ain't no MP3 encoder" or such...
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#284 by brokenman » 04 Oct 2015, 03:13

I love the name nemesis! Very powerful. There is a package injection tool with this name. It also has a relation to arch as in "Lex Luthor is superman's arch-nemesis". I also like the name "enemy" and "JaX" just another X. In any case stiffling, please join the bitbucket and I will create your access. Since you gave birth to arch porteus and have the most experience it stands to reason that you should lead the charge.

Francois, your reasoning about getting to know systemd is precisely why I decided to do this. If you can't kill the beast you'd better tame it.
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Post#285 by Rava » 04 Oct 2015, 06:12

I am also in favour of Nemesis. :D
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