Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manager)

Porteus based on Arch with pacman package manager.
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#196 by francois » 11 Jun 2015, 05:31

Great photo on your desktop.

From memory wicd is the WiFi manager. All you have to do is to find the WiFi network and assign your router password.

Volume could be managed at bottom with bootloader cheat code:
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=1106
as in volume=80%

Finally, firefox and chrome add very slow on old Linux boxes. You should be better with opera or slimjet or midori.
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#197 by francois » 11 Jul 2015, 21:49

Here I need a little help from my friends (stifiling, ncmprhnsbl, or any arch knoledgeable person).

chromium, that is google-chrome browser on archlinux (porteus-arch) will not start. The error message is:

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root@porteus:~# chromium
/usr/lib/chromium/chromium: /lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found (required by /usr/lib/chromium/chromium)
root@porteus:~#
According to this thread the following pacman command did not do the job, or maybe I did not say yes to the good options while in the debugging process:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=181759

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pacman --debug -Syu gcc-libs
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#198 by francois » 11 Jul 2015, 22:50

And:

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root@porteus:~# pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 sensei                    11.7 KiB  11.4M/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
 archlinuxfr is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
error: duplicated database entry 'libtasn1'
error: duplicated database entry 'p11-kit'
error: duplicated database entry 'recordproto'
error: duplicated database entry 'diffutils'
warning: alsa-lib: local (1.0.28-1) is newer than extra (1.0.27.2-1)
warning: autoconf: local (2.69-2) is newer than core (2.69-1)
warning: automake: local (1.14.1-1) is newer than core (1.14-1)
warning: binutils: local (2.24-7) is newer than core (2.23.2-3)
warning: bison: local (3.0.2-1) is newer than core (3.0.1-1)
warning: cloog: local (0.18.1-3) is newer than core (0.18.1-2)
warning: diffutils: local (3.3-2) is newer than core (3.3-1)
warning: fakeroot: local (1.20.1-1) is newer than core (1.20-1)
warning: file: local (5.20-1) is newer than core (5.15-1)
warning: flac: local (1.3.0-4) is newer than extra (1.3.0-1)
warning: flex: local (2.5.39-1) is newer than core (2.5.37-1)
warning: gc: local (7.4.2-2) is newer than extra (7.2.d-2)
warning: gcc: local (4.9.1-2) is newer than core (4.8.2-5)
warning: groff: local (1.22.2-7) is newer than core (1.22.2-5)
warning: gtksourceview2: local (2.10.5-3) is newer than extra (2.10.5-2)
warning: guile: local (2.0.11-2) is newer than extra (2.0.9-1)
warning: icu: local (53.1-1) is newer than extra (52.1-1)
warning: isl: local (0.13-1) is newer than core (0.12.1-2)
warning: json-c: local (0.12-2) is newer than extra (0.11-1)
warning: libltdl: local (2.4.2-14) is newer than core (2.4.2-12)
warning: libmpc: local (1.0.2-2) is newer than core (1.0.1-2)
warning: libogg: local (1.3.2-1) is newer than extra (1.3.1-2)
warning: libpulse: local (5.0-1) is newer than extra (4.0-6)
warning: libtasn1: local (4.2-1) is newer than extra (3.4-1)
warning: libtool: local (2.4.2-14) is newer than core (2.4.2-12)
warning: libvorbis: local (1.3.4-1) is newer than extra (1.3.3-1)
warning: make: local (4.0-2) is newer than core (4.0-1)
warning: mc: local (4.8.13-1) is newer than community (4.8.11-1)
warning: mousepad: local (0.3.0-3) is newer than extra (0.3.0-2)
warning: nss: local (3.17.1-1) is newer than extra (3.15.3-1)
warning: p11-kit: local (0.22.1-1) is newer than extra (0.20.1-1)
warning: patch: local (2.7.1-3) is newer than core (2.7.1-2)
warning: pciutils: local (3.2.1-1) is newer than core (3.2.0-4)
warning: perl: local (5.20.1-1) is newer than core (5.18.1-1)
warning: pkg-config: local (0.28-2) is newer than core (0.28-1)
warning: python: local (3.4.2-1) is newer than extra (3.3.3-1)
warning: python-xdg: local (0.25-2) is newer than extra (0.25-1)
warning: recordproto: local (1.14.2-2) is newer than extra (1.14.2-1)
warning: scrnsaverproto: local (1.2.2-2) is newer than extra (1.2.2-1)
warning: speech-dispatcher: local (0.8.1-1) is newer than extra (0.8-2)
warning: sudo: local (1.8.11.p1-1) is newer than core (1.8.8-1)
warning: thunar: local (1.6.3-2) is newer than extra (1.6.3-1)
warning: ttf-bitstream-vera: local (1.10-10) is newer than extra (1.10-9)
warning: vte: local (0.28.2-5) is newer than extra (0.28.2-3)
warning: vte-common: local (0.38.1-1) is newer than extra (0.34.9-1)
warning: xdg-utils: local (1.1.0.git20141009-1) is newer than extra (1.1.0.git20130520-1)
warning: xfce4-terminal: local (0.6.3-1) is newer than extra (0.6.2-1)
warning: xorg-xrandr: local (1.4.3-1) is newer than extra (1.4.1-1)
warning: yajl: local (2.1.0-1) is newer than extra (2.0.4-2)
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#199 by ncmprhnsbl » 12 Jul 2015, 23:41

i,m guessing , thats the latest chrome built via AUR...
still guessing, gcc-libs is kernel dependent, which means, to upgrade requires specific kernel(could be completely wrong about that)
otherwise you could look at seblu.net for when gcc-libs is the correct version, point /etc/pacman.conf at it..
or just download it directly ... then pacman -U /where /the/pkg/is.pkg.xz
high chance of breakage, being close to the end of its cycle...
for new kernel we must wait for porteus 4.0 (and if stifiling makes a new sensei)
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#200 by francois » 13 Jul 2015, 16:23

From what I understand, gcc should be fixed with the new kernel, and accordingly all these other dependencies for which there is conflict for the upgraded packages.

Introduction to pacman, and citation:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pa ... troduction
After pacman -Syu is run there is a small chance that corrections on the system will be needed in order to have it running as desired. Important corrections are advertised here: Arch Home. They are very rare (six in 2012). However, it is advisable to run pacman -Syu only when time to perform corrections is available to the user and not when the system is relied upon. It is advisable to run pacman -Syu often in order to minimize the difficulty of adjustment, whenever it arises.

However in the first page of this thread

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pacman -Sy
is proposed.
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#201 by ncmprhnsbl » 13 Jul 2015, 23:48

remember, sensei-porteus is not arch,
arch rolls, sensei-porteus does not, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar ... ck_Machine
so -Syu will not upgrade anything(actually, if there are changes in stifiling sourceforge repo or archlinuxfr, would be picked up)
pacman cannot upgrade the slackware kernel...
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#202 by francois » 14 Jul 2015, 02:22

I just reinstall anew and everything works now. Maybe, I just played to much with pacman -Sy package. :oops:
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Post#203 by ncmprhnsbl » 14 Jul 2015, 08:03

fresh is best :good:
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#204 by francois » 15 Jul 2015, 10:32

@Stifiling:
This archlinux version of porteus is more responsive than the original porteus on my old Linux boxes with the packages I usually have on my porteus system. With archlinux and pacman, the choice and availability of packages is infinite, their installation is a charm.

However. The 64 bit edition of version 3.1rc does not permit persistence.

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#205 by blue4meridian » 15 Sep 2015, 14:24

Salutations... :good:

Everything works like it says on the box and then some. :Yahoo!:
I'm still a newbian :oops: (to Sensei) so I'm still stumbling around... although there's all kinds of possibilities that were not open before.

In Xfce I'm still trying to locate the package log (/var/log/packages?) so I can replace it with LxQt. And I have some issue w/ Alsa working.
And I'm also trying to figure out how to get my ElanTECH touchpad set up (my ElanTECH touchscreen works great).

In any case... I know I'm a believer. Great job! :wink:

Best Regards... :beer:

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Post#206 by ncmprhnsbl » 15 Sep 2015, 22:22

package list (should be)is in /var/lib/pacman/local
And I'm also trying to figure out how to get my ElanTECH touchpad set up (my ElanTECH touchscreen works great).
not sure what you mean .. touchpad not working?
try: viewtopic.php?f=114&t=2386#p16544
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#207 by francois » 16 Sep 2015, 01:36

If your intent is to replace the xfce desktop with the porteus lxqt module, this will not work. Instead, you will have to install lxqt thru pacman and modify the login manager so that you boot into lxqt, see archlinux instructions:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXQt

This will need some very good familiarization with the archlinux environment. And no one will help you on the archlinux forum if you are not using archlinux directly. Personnally, I would stick with the xfce environment as this is for porteus-arch the only flavor available for 3.1.

But maybe better than that, you should turn yourself to manjaro an archlinux derivative. These people will provide help on their forum. Here is the lxqt download:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/manjaro ... T/2015.08/
Here is the forum:
https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?board=20.0

You could build also your own minimal lxqt from what they call the manjaro net edition (600mb):
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?titl ... stallation

Manjaro is one of the biggest linux distribution presently. :wink:
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#208 by Ed_P » 16 Sep 2015, 04:24

francois wrote:Here is the forum:
https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?board=20.0
This actually might be a better link: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php
You could build also your own minimal lxqt from what they call the manjaro net edition (600mb)
Careful francois, that could be taken as a DIY response. :wink:
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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#209 by blue4meridian » 16 Sep 2015, 11:11

Salutations... :good:

Manjaro is inferior to Porteus and Xfce is too minimal. So far Sensei has done everything advertised on the box. :Yahoo!:
Currently... I have no intention of using Pacman whatsoever. And I haven't been totally honest about abandoning Slackware.
For months I've been collating my massive esoteric library of Arch Linux modules using strict adherence to Arch's tedious dependency hell... :evil:
I've wasted precious time using many abstraction tactics for months with Slackware because the userland was wrong. Arch Linux solved that.

The failures however :fool: taught me many things about...
Linux file structure... X11... abstraction... frontends... backends... middleware... dependency... dropins... plugins... and most of all Jit's and parallelism.

I haven't had this much fun since Slitaz. :unknown:

I'm sorry... :oops: it appears my last post was taken out of context. I don't do "requests" (begging?) :wall: anymore. But I do "sharing" (support?) :wink: .
That ridiculous... juvenile and highly amusing section incoherently named "Requests" is a waste of good webspace but it did help me to focus.

I have been computing for 35 years and I have forgotten more than many have learned. My interest is system design NOT coding (I hate the "black" arts).
My (niche?) area of expertise is memory management (25yrs). I'm not interested in headless servers or boutique apps. I want to do supercomputing.

Again... Salutations... :good: now that I've introduced myself as so NOT a novice 8) can I trade baseball cards (knowledge?) and war stories now?

Ok... back on topic. I have learned the following... until there is an Arch USM for Sensei I must keep LxQt/Porteus handy on another boot partition.
All my Arch modules are made from converted pkgs.org "pkg's" (Arch) using LxQt/Porteus. And all of them function flawlessly in Sensei.

Hmmm... now there's an idea who's time has come... "separating the package tools from USM". :Yahoo!:

In regard to desktop environment it appears Sensei has several environment "003" modules. I want to deprecate the one for Xfce (eg. remove Xfce) .
If I can locate the "003" package list I can get it done. I need to look for threads on that issue. Then I can integrate LxQt with the "003" module.

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Re: Porteus/Arch aka Sensei (Porteus w/pacman package manage

Post#210 by francois » 16 Sep 2015, 11:28

Thumbs up for the positive attitude.

However, my impression is that stifiling will not maintain that thread anymore. :(
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