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"Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them?

Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 14:09
by iolalog
Coming from Windows, but with some Ubuntu experience, there's a few things I miss that you can probably help me with.
1. Ubuntu has a "restricted extras" package with various plugins and codecs that are more or less useful. Available (and needed?) for Porteus?
2. Are there browser modules with plugins added? I have Chrome for instance, and while it supports flash, there is no Java plugin. While I am not too fond of Java, I need it for some functions. I've searched the forum a little, but haven't found a simple solution. Browser modules with plugins already added (all browsers), or a simple howto, would be much appreciated!

Generally Java tends to be an Achilles heel when I (and others I know) test Linux. Web banks, public sector login and similar often require it.

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 14:24
by wread
Try this module, it works for me!

Regards

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 23:53
by iolalog
Thanks! Will this work for all browsers? All desktops? As I use 64 bit, do I need the 32 bit compatibles module as well?

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 00:47
by iolalog
Added compat32-libraries-2.0-x86_64-1sl.xzm and jre-7u40-i586-1.xzm to the modules folder and restarted. I can now open the Java panel from Settings, but I am still asked to install the java plugin in Chrome when I go to the java test page. Anything else I have to do, or doesn't it work with XFCE and / or Chrome?

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 01:13
by iolalog
Tested now. Of the browsers one can compile with Porteus, status is as follows:
* Chrome: Flash, no java.
* Firefox: Flash, no java.
* Opera: Flash and java.

Ideas on how to make java work with all browsers? If not I'll consider Opera, as it's been my browser of choice in the past.

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 01:23
by wread
My Chrome has Flash and Java, but I use KDE4; I guess you will have to clear this question with Ahau, he is the XFACE expert... :(

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 06:16
by fanthom
@iolalog
openjre is in 64bit porteus repo. please grab it along with icedtea-web (java web plugin) and you are good to go. no need to use 32bit java+compat32.

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 01:44
by iolalog
fanthom wrote:@iolalog
openjre is in 64bit porteus repo. please grab it along with icedtea-web (java web plugin) and you are good to go. no need to use 32bit java+compat32.
Thanks fanthom! This is where I always get discouraged testing Linux however (I've had a couple of runs with Ubuntu, and given up in the end every time).

First test using the modules you suggested:
IcedTea-Web Plugin version: 1.4 (Slackware-14.0-x86_64)
Tue Oct 15 01:21:18 GMT 2013
java.io.IOException: /home/guest/.icedtea/cache/3/http/java.com/applet/JavaDetection_applet.jnlp (No such file or directory)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.JNLPFile.openURL(JNLPFile.java:297)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.JNLPFile.<init>(JNLPFile.java:206)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.JNLPCreator.create(JNLPCreator.java:33)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.PluginBridge.<init>(PluginBridge.java:106)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.PluginBridge.<init>(PluginBridge.java:64)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:100)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:380)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:724)
So I went ahead and created the directory (even if the first message makes it clear there's something wrong, as I shouldn't have to create folders), and get this:
IcedTea-Web Plugin version: 1.4 (Slackware-14.0-x86_64)
Tue Oct 15 01:28:58 GMT 2013
java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 503 for URL: http://www.oracle.com/splash/java/index.html
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.JNLPFile.openURL(JNLPFile.java:297)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.JNLPFile.<init>(JNLPFile.java:206)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.JNLPCreator.create(JNLPCreator.java:33)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.PluginBridge.<init>(PluginBridge.java:106)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.PluginBridge.<init>(PluginBridge.java:64)
at net.sourceforge.jnlp.NetxPanel.runLoader(NetxPanel.java:100)
at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(AppletPanel.java:380)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:724)
There may be a simple explanation (me being a fool), but with Windows the java install works in 95% of the cases. With Linux I have yet to get it right. Things like this discourage Windows users from picking up Linux, as I need access to web banks and the likes if I am to reduce or rid myself of my Windows dependence.

Anyway, I'll search for a solution, and please let me know if you have any suggestions.

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 13:39
by fanthom
i have downloaded icedtea-web first then openjre (which pulled cups and rhino modules as deps) and java is working fine for me.
please make sure you have all these modules activated.

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 15:22
by iolalog
fanthom wrote:i have downloaded icedtea-web first then openjre (which pulled cups and rhino modules as deps) and java is working fine for me.
please make sure you have all these modules activated.
I had two passes. The first time I chose 1alien or something for resolution, the second time gcc (added more modules). I didn't add icedtea first however, so I'll test that.

Are you on XFCE and Chrome?

Re: "Restricted extras", Java etc. - Modules containing them

Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 22:14
by iolalog
PaulBy made the official Oracle Java release available in the 64 modules forum, and that worked. For that reason I'll pass on more troubleshooting of openjre. Thanks for your assistance though!