[SOLVED] HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#16 by Ed_P » 15 Apr 2016, 14:38

The new processor sounds like a 64 bit chip. The pc sounds like a 32 bit machine. You probably need a new mainboard to support the new processor.
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#17 by Jack » 15 Apr 2016, 15:24

The parts manual for that computer and it list the processor are.

The old CPU:
P/N 433506-001 AMD Sempron 64 3400+ processor - 1.8GHz (800MHz front side bus 256kb L2 cache, socket (940 pin) AM2)

And this will work CPU:
P/N 444887-001 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 5000+ processor 2.60GHz (1GHz front side bus 2MB L2 cache (Dual Core technology, 1MB per core) socket (940 pin) AM2)

I copy this out of the Parts manual. Here is the part manual link.
http://www.ambry.com/hp-computer-model/RW810UC.html
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#18 by Jack » 15 Apr 2016, 15:34

Ed_P wrote:The new processor sounds like a 64 bit chip. The pc sounds like a 32 bit machine. You probably need a new mainboard to support the new processor.
With the CPU that I'm using right now I'm using Mate x86_64 which is the AMD Sempron 64 3400+ processor - 1.8GHz.
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#19 by brokenman » 15 Apr 2016, 19:37

Looks like it should be compatible. Be sure that the CPU has thermal paste and that it is aligned correctly. They only go in one way. One corner of the CPU should have a little triangle painted on it, it needs to match the motherboard counterpart. Leave the motherboard accessible and the heat sink off. When you boot quickly check the temperature with your finger (be careful not to burn yourself, and be sure to discharge any static before) and then shut down quickly. If it is getting power you should feel the temperature rise quickly. If it's getting poweroff the put the heat sink on and boot again. Pay attention to any beeps you may hear.
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#20 by Jack » 16 Apr 2016, 03:04

brokenman wrote:Looks like it should be compatible. Be sure that the CPU has thermal paste and that it is aligned correctly. They only go in one way. One corner of the CPU should have a little triangle painted on it, it needs to match the motherboard counterpart. Leave the motherboard accessible and the heat sink off. When you boot quickly check the temperature with your finger (be careful not to burn yourself, and be sure to discharge any static before) and then shut down quickly. If it is getting power you should feel the temperature rise quickly. If it's getting poweroff the put the heat sink on and boot again. Pay attention to any beeps you may hear.
I did put thermal paste. I will try what you said with the rest. I did find out by the seller of the CPU and said that I might have to update the bios and I can do it by an ISO file burn a CD and do it that way. Is that the best way to do it?
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#21 by Jack » 16 Apr 2016, 20:31

I was worry but well I just upgraded from v2.10 to v2.36 which is the latest bios upgrade. I have to get more paste for the CPU then I will try it again.
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#22 by vazonov11 » 17 Apr 2016, 08:32

and how come?

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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#23 by Jack » 18 Apr 2016, 16:04

I want to thank everyone that help me. The AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 5000+ processor is up and running and I will let it run to be sure that it is good to go. The bios upgrade did the trick.

Yesterday I found out I could have upgraded the CPU to a AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3.0 GHz Dual-Core (ADA6000IAA6CZ) Processor but maybe one day.

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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#24 by Jack » 18 Apr 2016, 21:38

At first I thought that computer had a problem, what I mean is it had XP pro on it and thought it should be fast but it wasn't it was slow. So I install Windows 7 on it and the only driver I need was video and sound. I found out it wasn't slow with 7 on it works better then my Laptop with 7 on it and they both have same 3GB of memory. If I find it can use 8GB of memory I will upgrade too but it looks like it will. The Parts for that computer has a link. http://www.ambry.com/hp-computer-model/RW810UC.html and here is the memory it will take.
Memory (DIMM)

396519-001
256MB, 667MHz, CL=5, PC2-5300 DDR2-SDRAM DIMM memory (Option PX974AA)
396520-001
512MB, 667MHz, CL=5, PC2-5300 DDR2-SDRAM DIMM memory (Option PX975AA)
398038-001
1GB, 667MHz, CL=5, PC2-5300 DDR2-SDRAM DIMM memory (Option PX976AA)
418951-001
1GB, 800MHz, CL=6, PC2-6400 DDR2-SDRAM ECC Fully Buffered DIMMs (FBD) memory module
418952-001
512MB, 800MHz, CL=6, PC2-6400 DDR2-SDRAM ECC Fully Buffered DIMMs (FBD) memory module
457624-001
2GB, 800MHz, CL=6, PC2-6400 DDR2-SDRAM ECC Fully Buffered DIMMs (FBD) memory module

Memory Module

455971-001
1.0GB readyboost memory module
Not sure what type this memory is or use for "455971-001 1.0GB readyboost memory module"?
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#25 by donald » 19 Apr 2016, 19:05

Hi Jack
Nice that it works now.. :D
I have exactly the same CPU.
This CPU is capable to scale down the speed when idle.
This feature saves a lot of energy and reduces the CPU temperature significantly.
check with:

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guest@localhost:~$ grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo
cpu MHz		: 1000.000
cpu MHz		: 1000.000
The CPU dynamically selects one of the possible speed steps, depending on the current workload.
( in our case 2600, 2400, 2200, 2000, 1800 and 1000 Mhz)
In fact my CPU runs at its lowest speedstep 90% of time during normal workload.

I'm not sure if it works ootB in 3.1. If it doesn't, report.

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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#26 by Jack » 20 Apr 2016, 02:55

Here is some links on CPU Benchmark.

Old CPU
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu ... on+3400%2B

New CPU
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu ... re+5000%2B

There was a big jump on the CPU Benchmark. I'm happy for a $13.00 CPU investment plus $7.00 for the memory.
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#27 by Jack » 20 Apr 2016, 19:28

donald wrote:Hi Jack
Nice that it works now.. :D
I have exactly the same CPU.
This CPU is capable to scale down the speed when idle.
This feature saves a lot of energy and reduces the CPU temperature significantly.
check with:

Code: Select all

guest@localhost:~$ grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo
cpu MHz		: 1000.000
cpu MHz		: 1000.000
The CPU dynamically selects one of the possible speed steps, depending on the current workload.
( in our case 2600, 2400, 2200, 2000, 1800 and 1000 Mhz)
In fact my CPU runs at its lowest speedstep 90% of time during normal workload.

I'm not sure if it works ootB in 3.1. If it doesn't, report.
Here is my output and if it is good or bad?

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root@porteus:~# grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo
cpu MHz		: 1000.000
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
cpu MHz		: 1000.000
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps
root@porteus:~# 
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Re: HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#28 by donald » 20 Apr 2016, 20:47

looks good ..imo
If you like you could check if the CPU will also scale upwards.
Give the cpu something to do, e.g. play a youtube video,
higher values should be displayed now. If so, it works well.

btw
in XFCE one can monitor all this in panel
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I don't know MATE,.I'm a XFCE guy.. :wink:

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Re: [SOLVED] HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#29 by Jack » 20 Apr 2016, 22:19

I mark it [SOLVED] and I want to thank everyone that help me with it. There is a few other thing I want to do and I will post good or bad on them.

Again Thanks
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Re: [SOLVED] HP dc5750 Small Form Factor

Post#30 by Jack » 05 Sep 2016, 02:50

I think I'm going to use this computer for building modules or bundle. I'm going to see if I can dual boot it with Mate or KDE pick between the two. Then I can build for everyone that want modules. It only has a 80GB Hard Drive but I think it will be enough to do it. I have I think a 10GB file area on MediaFire to store the files.

If anyone can help on the dual boot cause I have never done that before.
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