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Post#16 by francois » 13 Apr 2017, 19:57

@rava:
Try google translate. I gives very good results for me for japaneese and for russian.

@all:
Donald Trump is not Barrack Obama, so where would be the conspiracy? Siria and North Korea are two very different files.

The latter country being governed by communist tyran called Kim Jung Un, which is a loose cannon with nuclear power at the tip of his fingers. And here the problem is not at all for me with communism as a system of government.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-north ... SKBN16303Z

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Post#17 by Tonio » 13 Apr 2017, 20:21

Donald Trump is not Barrack Obama, so where would be the conspiracy? Siria and North Korea are two very different files.
They work for the same people. All of this behind the scenes. The shadow government.
Dick Cheney, George Bush, Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama and now Mr. Trump.
Syria and North Korea would be different files, yes. But Syria is a plan of regime change, just like in Libya and Iraq. If they get Syria then Iran is next. And North Korea, is a different file.
They create the files and then they want to remove them

Code: Select all

# touch /bin/laden
then they applied a hammer

Code: Select all

# rm -rf /bin/laden
They do this everywhere they can and only few countries take a stand against them. Who will stop them ?
BTW I liked your cartoons. There are more at snippits and snappits.

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Post#18 by francois » 13 Apr 2017, 21:21

I could not find it, but I had a better cartoon from the same artist, where Donald is in the oval office trying to make a call. In background, thru the window, missiles were launched as he pushed the buttons of his telephone handset, trying to get communication and saying: hello, hello, hello!

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A conspiracy:AIDS and Cuba.
http://yournewswire.com/the-truth-about ... onspiracy/

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https://www.theguardian.com/media-netwo ... spi-hunter
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Post#19 by Tonio » 14 Apr 2017, 00:38

Some folks say that TPTB were afraid of Mr Trump because they would not be able to control him. He canpaigned against wars of agression, make america great again. He has bitten the dust and he has made the world hate america again.

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Post#20 by donald » 14 Apr 2017, 02:05

First of all, i do not "hate" the U.S
I dislike Trump but Hilary wouldn't be any better.

We, which were born in the "1st" world have had luck.
We can live on such a high comfort level, because it is not allowed to others.

Yes, it is all about the resources.
We do not have them, others have them, but not enough for all.
And if we want to stay in our comfort zone, we can not allow resource owners
to turn against us.
Give them weapons, play intriguing games so they are busy with themselves and do not
turn against us -- that's the name of the "Game"

Despite moral and ethical objections, it was and will always be the same game.
"ME FIRST" -- it is the human nature.

For now it is oil etc --- in the future it will be Water

China is woke up and needs more and more resources.
Sooner or later, the millions of cyclists will demand a car and an air-conditioning system.

The human population has grown too far.

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All politicians are nothing more than "puppets on a string" -- Capital governs the world.

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Post#21 by francois » 14 Apr 2017, 02:26

@ Donald:
You are late with China's news. Not only the they have moved to motor vehicles already, but bicycles are in fad once again:
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.theguar ... two-wheels
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Post#22 by donald » 14 Apr 2017, 02:35

In detail you are right.
It was meant as an example of the ever-growing demand for raw materials. :wink:

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Post#23 by Bogomips » 14 Apr 2017, 11:02

Excellent bike riding article. No longer turn on television, all the bad news from that region depressing with being powerless to do anything. Kind of unhealthy preoccupation like watching footy on TV and getting heart attack from it. :bad:
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Post#24 by Rava » 15 Apr 2017, 12:28

donald wrote:First of all, i do not "hate" the U.S
I dislike Trump but Hilary wouldn't be any better.
That was my main issue with the November voting of the US president.

Many naive people really thought "With Hillary things will get better. Only because she is a female"... not realizing that Hillary or Donald are both pawns of the mighty.

Folks, you all should read The Prince (Italian: Il Principe [il ˈprintʃipe]), the 16th-century political treatise, by the Italian diplomat and political theorist Niccolò Machiavelli. But unlike what most people believe, he said it himself in the preface. Nothing in that book is his idea, he just collected all that was available on political theory back then, and put it together to aid his Prince. (Forgot the Prince name, it not important anyway)

It explains it quite good how it is to be done. The King creates a right-wing party. And a left wing party. The right-wingers go to him if they have issues, so do the left-wingers. And the commonality also goes to the king, asking him for advice.

That is exactly how they do it, when they first met at the Bilderberger Hotel. They meet in private, the police (and so we all) secures it on our costs, and no one knows what they decide, Fact is they are from all important political parties, and they play a game in the open, when most left-wingers act like they dislike the right-wingers, and vice versa.
But at the Bilderberger meetings the ones playing "enemies" are suddenly meeting in secret and agreeing on all of our future, without an iota of political control, at all. So, dictatorship of the powerful political and economical elite.


Who was the person who first created the phrase of the "Military-Industrial Complex"? Was he a Communist? Or Socialist?
No, far from it, it was President Dwight D. Eisenhower, he used it in his farewell address on January 17, 1961. xD
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Post#25 by brokenman » 15 Apr 2017, 14:43

In the minutes after I heard that the improbable had happened, and Trump was to be president, I turned to my wife and said: "He is going to start a war."

Isn't that what the economy needs? Is it not a war economy? This is sadly what history shows. Manufactured wars for manufacture of war machines.
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Post#26 by francois » 15 Apr 2017, 20:14

Syria is about war, and alas war is about economy. A very archaic form of economic domination. Do not forget ISIS or DAESH with the califat.
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Post#27 by Tonio » 15 Apr 2017, 20:20

@Brokenman
What Trump campaigned on he already broke. Wars of aggression. You are right on target. The banksters finance both sides and they get their profits.
@Rava
You are also right on target with the Bildeberg meetings, there is also the CFR (council on foreign relations), the Trilateral commission and also the pope. He also is in there pushing the evil agenda. Where was he when in Syria, the ISIS cabal were killing many Christians?
@all
Many folks out there believe we are in the final days. Sadly any day can be our "final day". We are just here for a while and we never know when we have to part from this world. When governments should serve the people and instead people serve the government. Why can't we all just get along and stop the fighting. Aren't we all one race human? Or are there other visitors who are not human and they play with us like if we are their pets?
francois wrote:Syria is about war, and alas war is about economics
Syria is also biblical, i.e. in scripture. Ezequiel 38 where the Gog and Magog war. There are the nations in Genesis, but they saw they will attack Israel. Libya, and its older name Cush and Put, Gomer, and there is Syria and Persia (Iran) would be next. I don't want to believe that Putin is Gog, but many bible folks come to that conclusion. They also believe firmly that Russia annexed Crimea, when Crimea has belonged to Russia before USA became a nation. Sure it belonged to Ottoman Empire before, but it belongs to Russia. Europe and the west have these sanctions on them, but makes Russia only stronger and does not help relations. Where would North Korea be in the prophesies?
The monetary policy makers, the central bankers, the IMF, etc are all profiting from these wars of aggression.

edited by Rava: I merged your two posts. Please use "edit article" in the future.

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Post#28 by francois » 15 Apr 2017, 23:20

ISIS is about the sunnites trying to restore muslim greatness, though these extemist are more to be associated to mafia than to the muslim religion itself.
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Post#29 by Rava » 15 Apr 2017, 23:32

@all
The issue with IS and Syria is a very complex one.

The Bilderberger, CFR (council on foreign relations), the Trilateral commission and war for greed, power and money is complicated enough.

That we have a region with a history of power struggle makes it more complex. At times it was part of the Ottoman Empire. Then we have the western imperialistic powers, their most grave mistake was not caring one iota about the social and cultural and religious backgrounds of the people living in any area. They split countries apart to get the biggest slice of cake.
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Like, why do have the Kurds not an own state, they are the most reasonable in the whole area. When I were in Politics, I would say "make a Kurdish state where we can (Syria and Iraq for now) and let the people, the Kurds decide if they want the areas the inhabit almost exclusive to be part of a Kurdish state."

The Kurds can be Christians, or Islam, or whatever, but all are respectful with each other.
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Then came WW1 and WW2...
After WW2, people said "France and Germany, with what happened in WW1 and especially WW2... they can never be friends"

But look what happened instead. The way France and Germany have been able to get to know each other, and become allies and friends, that can show the whole world that long lasting bitter enemies can indeed change for the better, and especially for profit for most of the people. Not just profit for the 0.01 % of the elites. Bilderberger etcetera)
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And somehow the circle closes. It all is happening all over again, and the reasons for war, and the possibilities for lasting peace are the same, as it was 500 years prior Christ, or 2000 years past Christ... or 5000 years past.
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Post#30 by Bogomips » 16 Apr 2017, 01:46

Looks like all we can do is to try to make the best we can of the cards we are dealt with, without it being to someone else's detriment. :angel:
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