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AppImage: portable software

Post#1 by ncmprhnsbl » 29 May 2016, 22:13

Evan said:
About time they made installing programs as easy as *.exe files in windows " That comment is always good for starting an Argument.
no argument here:
http://appimage.org/
AppImage (packaging method

https://bintray.com/probono/AppImages

krita 3 beta:
http://files.kde.org/krita/3/linux/devb ... 4.appimage
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Re: AppImage: portable software

Post#3 by brokenman » 29 May 2016, 23:06

Didn't work for me. Downloaded the example appimage and it spat out errors about missing libraries.

I am implementing a 'bundles' feature in Porteus which should make apps portable between desktops. The first rollout will be per desktop. After that I am playing with statically linking.
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Post#4 by ncmprhnsbl » 29 May 2016, 23:16

yeah some will work , some wont... but generally once you track down those missing libs, they do... to be fair porteus is pretty stripped back compared to the "average distro"
i might add ... this isnt a new idea, blender has been doing this sort of thing for many years....
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Post#5 by ncmprhnsbl » 29 May 2016, 23:56

also : games (32 bit only but should work on 64 bit with multilib enabled)
https://portablelinuxgames.org/
the 'info' page is quite 'entertaining' :D
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Post#6 by ncmprhnsbl » 30 May 2016, 00:13

heres a different type of portable software tool : Zero Install (0install)
Zero Install
http://0install.net/injector-feeds.html
http://roscidus.com/0mirror/
havnt tried any of these yet...
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Post#7 by fullmoonremix » 30 May 2016, 00:43

Salutations... :good:

It seems like a good fit for the options folder. Other than that I foresee lots of bloating. :unknown:

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Post#8 by ncmprhnsbl » 01 Jun 2016, 05:00

Evan wrote:I wonder how well Appimage would work with important drivers like Nvidia.
not well, since drivers like this need to be compiled for a specific kernel, the same sort of portability doesnt apply..
better off with a module..
fullmoonremix wrote:It seems like a good fit for the options folder. Other than that I foresee lots of bloating

or any place you want...
this is pretty much the point of appimages or modules for that matter, once you close it(or deactivate it) its gone.. its only bloat if you're not using it(imo)
for example i just downloaded the latest krita https://krita.org/item/krita-3-0-released/ and am running it on a system that has no qt5 or kf5 or<long list of deps>
they are by no means a replacement for distro repos or porteus modules/bundles
but can be handy for trying out/using otherwise tricky to <compile/get dependencies for> software
it does amuse me how the Linux community gives applications odd names
the're named by their developers usually... and blenders' creator develops on a mac ... the name btw comes from this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaZTSDfT1o4
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Post#9 by ncmprhnsbl » 02 Jun 2016, 01:44

well.... i'm no expert but... maybe.. as long theres no incompatible libs included, as when a module is activated it overwrites any same file in the live system..
where these appimages mount in parallel, using their prefered libs(and whatever native libs/deps not included), not effecting the base system...
as bogomips says: suck it and see :wink:
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Post#10 by Bogomips » 15 Jun 2016, 11:41

Sounds good. Just has to be turned into a module, and Porteus is home n hosed! :beer:
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Post#11 by brokenman » 16 Jun 2016, 02:02

As long as snapd has been ported to their linux distro it will just work.
Sounds like it has a dependency on systemd no?
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Post#12 by ncmprhnsbl » 16 Jun 2016, 02:48

brokenman wrote:Sounds like it has a dependency on systemd no?
would seem like it... but looking at https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/snapd/ ..it doesnt seem to expicitly depend on systemd..apart from supplying a service file..
tho i expect that other service managers(openrc, runit etc) aren't explicitly supported...
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Snapd
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Re: AppImage: portable software

Post#14 by Ed_P » 16 Jun 2016, 04:59

Evan wrote: Does using systemd matter to the average desktop user?
Probably not but it does to the developers, especially those looking for small, fast systems.
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Post#15 by fullmoonremix » 16 Jun 2016, 09:42

Salutations... :good:

Systemd :wall: violates the Unix philosophy: Do One Thing and Do It Well ...
This is why Linux is unquestionably more Mission critical and has vastly more Fault tolerance than WindozzZ.
IMHO... I don't think anyone would want to see the Blue Screen of Death on their life support. :shock:
The Unix credo put man on the moon using less technology than found in calculators today.

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