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Re: Suggestions
Posted: 07 Nov 2015, 09:01
by Rava
francois wrote:Personnally, I have the impression that archlinux is more efficient than porteus.
Oii... then we have to kick up Porteus in that regard. Maybe we can
steal some techniques learn from Arch and/or manjaro.org
(I already registered on
https://forum.manjaro.org/ dunno when I will actually have time to also post on there, but that may be as it is right now. The needed preparations at least are all done.
)
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 09 Nov 2015, 06:49
by Rava
Igor wrote:I am not a fan of Manjaro.
[...]
Please consider the possibility to build Porteus 4.0 repository of Manjaro. That solution can simplify and accelerate the development and maintenance of the distribution, and users to avoid many errors. Manjaro is the same Arch for the lazy. Thank you.
Hmmm confusing info that is. </yoda>
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 10 Nov 2015, 00:49
by francois
@igor:
Manjaro a different kind of beast is a summary of what manjaro as to offer. It seems in line with the philosophy of porteus and what we would like to provide to our forum members:
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?titl ... d_of_Beast
This means that
moving for manjaro servers as fast as possible would save a lot of job to us all.
Meanwhile, we learn.
Thanks for that post.
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 10 Nov 2015, 15:04
by Rava
^
This then means, Porteus will say goodbye forever to Slackware?
Manjaro (same as Arch) are
not Slackware based, right?
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 10 Nov 2015, 18:13
by francois
^
This then means, Porteus will say goodbye forever to Slackware?
Manjaro (same as Arch) are not Slackware based, right?
Manjaro has their own servers for binaries which are based on arch linux packages. Their release cycle is every one or two weeks. They add binaries that are not available with arch linux. However their package build is the same as archlinux, that is AUR. Whereas arch linux has only a cli interface, pacman as official package manager, manjaro offers a gui interface pamac, which will cover pacman and AUR thru yaourt, and a second gui interface called octopi. Yaourt is a package manager for package build (AUR).
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 01:27
by francois
Is it possible to include:
binutils
Thanks
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 03:04
by brokenman
Yes. It is in the devel package.
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 04:07
by aus9
suggestion for some later rebuild, not necessarily the one I know you are working on now
a modest saving can occur here but they all add up
/etc/services list port numbers
and points to a dir /usr/share/iana-etc/port-numbers.iana which contain unpacked files of 3.4M and ~ 40 Kb
cull dir
/usr/share/iana-etc/port-numbers.iana
edit /etc/services for top comment so it reads
# Full data:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/servic ... umbers.txt
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 04:21
by aus9
suggestion for later rebuild
edit /etc/fstab
delete these lines
# Do not edit this file as fstab is recreated automatically during every boot.
# Please use /etc/rc.d/rc.local or sysvinit scripts if you want to mount/unmount
# drive, filesystem or network share.
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 13:38
by brokenman
a modest saving can occur here but they all add up
Thanks. I was in doubt about this one when stripping her down. One question as I am not totally familiar with how iana works. Will this affect a user on a local network with no outside line that uses an app that parses the iana database?
I am getting close to being happy with the base system now. I will probably release something to play with this weekend. I have loaded the 000-kernel.xzm a ton of firmware to support a wide range of devices. It adds some weight to the ISO but will be worth it. I have sorted the shutdown problems. She goes down in about 4 seconds on my machine. One problem that lingers is the locales issue. I will probably upload what I have and let someone with more experience in this area take a look. I am sure the reason is dues to something I have stripped out.
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 22:19
by aus9
One question as I am not totally familiar with how iana works. Will this affect a user on a local network with no outside line that uses an app that parses the iana database?
Can't claim to be an expert here, but recently I had an issue with my gpg and remembered that I had disabled the router port 11371. Now for those who have a more permissive firewall in their router, gpg should work for them out-of-the-box.
Anyone stuck with no outside line is unlikely to know how to punch a hole thru any sofware/hardware firewall but if they do, then have an outside line and so becomes irrelevant?
Altho I have never used your Kiosk edition, maybe you thinking something along those lines?
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 12 Nov 2015, 01:16
by brokenman
Ok thanks. I will test it and find out. Also I think I have sorted the locales issue too.
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 12 Nov 2015, 02:37
by aus9
yes I am keen to test locales as still have unresolved issues with it.
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 12 Nov 2015, 11:06
by aus9
Ok I have resolved a certificate issue I was having with your current certificates.
I am posting in suggestions even tho, its more a question so forgive my arrogance.
I have started a build script but this test
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git clone https://code.google.com/p/setuid-sandbox/
Cloning into 'setuid-sandbox'...
Unpacking objects: 100% (89/89), done.
Checking connectivity... done.
Is now a PASS while it was a FAIL with your current ISO certificates.
If you have not already resolved this, can I start a new post in this Nemesis forum and post my first XZM.
Its not yet built but your feelings may be hurt that in my build I do these terrible things
here is a snip of build subject to verification later
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rm -rf /etc/ssl/certs/*
rm -rf usr/share/ca-certificates/*
# this removed brokenman's trusted stuff as well so be warned
cp -R mozilla /usr/share/ca-certificates/
ln -s /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/* /etc/ssl/certs/
cd /etc/ssl
CERTS=`ls certs | sed -r -s 's/.{4}$//' `
cd certs
for Z in $CERTS
do
mv $Z.crt $Z.pem
done
c_rehash
cd /tmp
cp -f ca-certificates.crt /etc/ssl/certs/
ln -s /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt /etc/ssl/cacert.pem
Naturally you can't stop me doing the actual build and using it privately but I prefer to share if you agree my test is a good test?
OOPS no idea how they make mtree at this stage.
Re: Suggestions
Posted: 12 Nov 2015, 20:25
by brokenman
Fine by me. The certificates are not mine. They are the defaults that come with the ca-certificates package. What problem were you having with them?