Porteus

Exactly.

It´s difficult for me to know exactly what was and wasn´t installed on your system when installing xfce. All I can say is that I installed xfce4 without any trouble, and made notes along the way. I am setting up my new system tonight, but when I boot back into Porteus I will check out the notes.

Lets stay with this thread on xfce4. I am doing it the way you proposed at some point in our precedent discussion:
viewtopic.php?f=137&t=5090
/porteus/base minus 003-lxde.xzm

suggestions now that I know we are not Manjaro bound.

Can the LXDE module have obconf installed please.

I know you are searching for the most popular media player but at this early stage can we get rid of jack?
I would also like to see as little gnome stuff in LXDE module as possible especially gnome-control-center and gnome-mplayer

Can the LXDE module have obconf installed please.
Certainly.

at this early stage can we get rid of jack?
Others have requested the inclusion of Jack. I can bump it into 003. I am starting to think I may have to go back on saying I will support both full working versions and stripped versions. Very difficult to get all the desktop agnostic packages into 001/002 and keep it small. Perhaps the layout should be:

001 basic packages to get text mode with network
002 basic packages to get xorg/sound/openbox
003 module of libraries/packages shared between all desktops
004 desktop and extras
005 desktop apps

This way people that wish can remove all but 002 and roll their own.

Salutations...

This is the ""rogue" base abstraction layer loadout (stack?) that I use (based on sawfish)...

001-baremetal (eg. "CLI" embedded? tcc... musl... libmce-perl (perl JIT?)... tinypy... opencl-headers... etc.)
002-interpreter (eg. language/compiler such as tcl... vala... pypy (pythonJIT?) ... luajit... guile... etc.)
003-toolkit (eg. gtk... qt... tk... fox... fltk... I agree with "aus9"... however gtk requires jack so I put it here)
004-interface (eg. "GLI" audio/visual... and networking? such as oss... pulseaudio... wayland... xf86... proto... etc.)
005-environment (eg. sawfish... cairo-composite manager... avant... perlpanel... volwheel... slim... etc.)
006-utilities (eg. spacefm... isomaster... gparted... unetbootin... leafpad... xterminal... qjackctl...etc.)
007-applications
008-workstation (eg. professional applications)
009-fullmoonremix (eg. rootcopy)
012-toolchain (eg. compiler/tools such as distcc... ccache... llvm... dragonegg... etc.)

The dependencies of each stack are included with the binaries. Also I use the "ramod" cheatcode (ramod=00*.*) to load < 010 into memory ONLY.
Modules 005 -012 are NOT built on each other (they are only built on 001 - 004) to facilitate removal without breaking anything.

IMHO... jack is also a requirement for pro audio (audacity... lmms... rosegarden... etc.) and to effectively use oss (oss-->pulseaudio-->qjackctl).

Best Regards...

brokenman, can you add Adobe Flash Player Auto Updater by Geoffrey

• for x86 update_flash-1.4-x86.xzm.
• for X86_64 update_flash-1.4_x86_64.xzm

?

I would rather not have anything 'auto update' unless asked to do so by the user. Is there any advantage in this flash updater over just using pacman to update flashplayer?

pacman -S flashplayer

Salutations...

@ brokenman... this is a updated loadout where I split the interpeter from the toolchain.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php? ... gue#p39982

Best Regards...

brokenman, yes, i agree with you but..., i think need to remove this code with 'auto update' and leave only 'manual update' - it's better way.

• you don't depend from packages.
• will get a new version from 1st source of offical web site adobe.com
• manual update via GUI

It's more simple than Of course i mean for newbies. For me it's not problem and i respect your choice

Regards,
Blaze

Thanks Blaze. I downloaded and activated it. As guest I ran update_flash and it was really easy. Nice gui. Unfortunately once it had finished I went to the flash test website and it said I don't have flash installed. Maybe I need to restart my browser. I can't right now because I have a hundred windows open that I can't close. Will try later.

Gentlemen

I am drifting offtopic but semi-related to flashplayer. Do we need it when its got some of the more frequent vulnerabilities out there?
https://helpx.adobe.com/security.html#flashplayer

News dated Dec 11 this year
http://www.itnews.com.au/news/adobe-pat ... ies-412927

No fewer than 80 critical vulnerabilites have been taken care of in the updated version 20.0.0.228 of Flash Player

Read more: http://www.itnews.com.au/news/adobe-pat ... z3uWnWzYGX

Gulp

I avoid flash whenever possible for this reason. Newbies coming to a distro probably expect it though, which is why it is included by default in Porteus. If we can facilitate updating it then I am all for it. Not so sure automatic updates are the way to go though.

EDIT:
Well the update didn't work for me.
/usr/bin/update_flash: line 225: 4309 Terminated gtkdialog --program=FLASH_UPDATER_GUI

It left files in /root and tried to resume on start but failed. Trying again after fixing lib path.

EDIT2:
Must only work if you already have flashplayer installed. It would be nice if it installed it in the case that it was not found existing on the system. Nice little gui.

With Flash in Firefox on 3.0.1 & 3.1 if a site needs Flash, and there has been an update of Flash, Flash, or Firefox, alerts you that there is an update. And USM usually has the update. So I don't think automatic updates are necessary. but a convenient way to install an update would be appreciated. By all, not just newbies.

I haven't found a convenient way to download a Java plugin yet though. A convenient way to do that would be appreciated also.

@brokenman

when Nemesis goes stable will the iso builder have a firefox module or will you leave firefox in the base of the iso?